Debian GNU Talk

[MetalMusicAddict]

Im getting a 64-bit system soon. I wanted to try Debian 64 but was wondering if anyone here has used it? Is it any different than Ubuntu-64?

[siimo]

I was exited about running 64bit linux as well when i got my 64bit system in december for christmas! but after 3-4 weeks of running it i gave up and went back to 32bit.

why?

64 bit is a waste of time currently - you will not get any noticible speed improvements over 32bit and it will use slightly more memory as well. whats more theres the need of having 32bit stuff like firefox so you can use plugins like flash. Same thing with mplayer as win32codes are only 32bit. I think openoffice still doesnt compile for 64bit. So you end up with both 32 and 64 bit version libraries of some things as well.


Besides my rambling above, yes i have used debian 64bit and it is a good system but it doesn't have openoffice etc as they don't install 32bit packages by default so you manually have to create a 32bit chroot and apt-get stuff like OOo in that. This was 2-3 months ago maybe the situation has changed? anyone know?

[RAV TUX]

this thread has been moved to "other" linux talk.

[RAV TUX]

I have decided to start a series of threads specifically for technical help for other Distros...the Distro is listed in the thread title. This is primarily for Ubuntu users who test or use other distros and feel most comfortable seeking help in our own community. In no way does this superceed the help you should also be getting from the perspective Distro., in fact I encourage you to be as active in their forums as you are here and post ideas, knowledge and solutions here to provide a reference point to share, reference links are encouraged.

***Debian Tech Talk***

cleaning up a bit I have merged these threads:

http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=10138
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=231248
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27243

[RavenOfOdin]

How can I do this?
I recently remade my backup comp for Etch and made the swap partition as large as the amount of RAM. Unfortunately, I have only 32MB of RAM in said comp. Now, GNOME takes an awful lot of time to load small things such as the theme manager, or to change themes, or to install from apt-get.

I can do all these things from Fluxbox without difficulty but I'm wondering if I can speed GNOME up in order to use it. I've already thought of disabling unneeded services and/or boot scripts. Any time I open more than one application, GNOME goes nuts. I used to have SELinux enabled but that proved to be a MAJOR CPU hog and gave me a zillion terminal messages.

Any ideas, people?

[xXx 0wn3d xXx]

1. Enable prelink

2. Make sure DMA (if you hardware supports it) is activated.

3. Use hdparm to optimize your hd.

4. Custom compile a new kernel (2.4.xx series) since your hardware is most likely old, and remove all the excess stuff.

5. If you use firefox, use swiftfox for intel/amd processors.

6. Use XML Optimization

7. Tweak you ext3/reiserfs filesystem for a performance boost.

8. Clean up unnessary files.

9. Make boot faster with InitNG

Note: All of these links are for Ubuntu but they will work on Debian.

Edit:

http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/199 - Simple change in Init scripts
http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/211 - Use bootchart to identify propblems when booting
http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/388 - Filesystem comparsion on Debian Etch

[croak77]

32MB Ram might be pushing it. I'd say just go with a window manager.

[Iandefor]

My suggestion? Chuck GNOME. It was intolerably slow with 64 MB for me, I can't imagine it would be better on half that. Go with the real man's choice- bash!

[RavenOfOdin]

@Owned: Thanks, I'll check those out soon enough.

@croak: That may be the issue. I wasn't even able to run KDE on Sarge
without having a monster swap file (256 MB), and even then it
routinely stayed at 100% usage. If I can find the exact type of RAM
that these iMacs take I might buy two 192MB sticks and put those in at
some point.

@Iandefor: Lol@bash. I imagine that would be good for a dedicated
server.

[tseliot]

32MB of RAM ??? I didn't know that GNOME could run on it.

Anyhow try Openbox or Icewm