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    [SOLVED] Family Friendly?

    I enjoyed setting up Ubuntu 8.10 with my 10 year old son. We learned about Ubuntu together and I was pleased that he was really engaged and interested in the whole process of installation and the philosophy of Ubuntu.

    We looked at the various packages that can be installed - to see if there was anything that looked really interesting. We got some graphics and video applications. All excellent.

    Then we hit a snag. "Daddy, what's Brainf**k?" he said. (This is the name of one of the packages).

    Can I ask the community that develops Ubuntu and those that compile distributions, to please bear in mind that computers are family devices.

    This forum's terms and conditions state "...you warrant that you will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar...". It's a great shame that the development community don't apply similar rules.

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    Re: Family Friendly?

    The one thing you have to remember is that the "development community" with open source projects is...well...everyone. It's hard to get everyone to abide my the same rules. For the most part, the Ubuntu team keeps it family friendly, and anything your son would be doing by himself would be perfectly acceptable.

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    Re: Family Friendly?

    You might simply avoid Synaptic and stick with the simpler Add/Remove applet at the bottom of the Applications menu.

    (Opens synaptic to search for brainf***).

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    Re: Family Friendly?

    "Daddy, what's Brainf**k?" he said.

    Answer: It's a programming language.

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    Re: Family Friendly?

    Embed Brainf**k in your perl code.
    Last edited by Crafty Kisses; November 23rd, 2008 at 08:22 PM.

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    Re: Family Friendly?

    That's an interesting story. I read somewhere that the code in the Linux kernel has got a smattering of uncouth language in it.


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    Re: Family Friendly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sealbhach View Post
    That's an interesting story. I read somewhere that the code in the Linux kernel has got a smattering of uncouth language in it.


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    http://durak.org/sean/pubs/kfc/

    http://www.vidarholen.net/contents/wordcount/

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    Re: Family Friendly?

    If the objective of Ubuntu and other Linux distributions is to provide an operating system which people can use to replace Microsoft software, then it will need to tidy up the use of profanities in the code and application names. Families with children will see these things, decide it's not for them, pay the devil and go to Microsoft instead.

    I'll happily f and blind with the best of them, but don't expect profanities to appear on-screen when installing operating system software.

    I wanted my son to become enthused by Linux and to learn about it himself. I install filters for web browsing for him - but I didn't think I'd need one for an operating system and its components.

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    Re: Family Friendly?

    Yeah, Brainf**k is a programming language, so I don't really think the Ubuntu guys can be faulted for that one, any more than, say, a newspaper can be faulted for printing it in a direct quote. While the Linux source code is riddled with profanity (hey, so is my own code), you won't find much that's inappropriate in the documentation.

    That leads me to a question: How difficult would it be to program a plugin that ***s out all the swears on text that appears on a machine? I can see doing them easily for individual programs (Firefox has a great greasemonkey profanity filter here), I wonder if it would be possible to apply one universally.

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    Re: Family Friendly?

    TBH it's not the Repository maintainer's fault.
    Blame the person who named Brainf**k, Brainf**k.
    P.S. Brainf**k is a programming language.

    EDIT: vergeh made a nice analogy that pretty much expains everything:
    so I don't really think the Ubuntu guys can be faulted for that one, any more than, say, a newspaper can be faulted for printing it in a direct quote.
    Last edited by OutOfReach; November 23rd, 2008 at 08:58 PM.

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