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    {SOLVED} Dialup in Ubuntu 8.10??

    I have been using Ubuntu 8.04 for awhile now,...getting dial-up with my little dial-up ISP seemed pretty easy (and I was able to use Synaptic to also install Gnome PPP). I had TWO little dial-up services going pretty well.

    Well,....I just installed Ubuntu 8.10,...and can't for-the-life-of-me, find anyplace that I can even begin to configure a little dial-up service! Has dial-up become obsolete in the new Ubuntu???? Say it isn't so!!!

    Or am I just not looking in the right place?
    Last edited by nitehawk777; November 20th, 2008 at 11:54 PM.

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    Re: Dialup in Ubuntu 8.10??

    I was hoping 8.10 would have dialup connection settings in the network manager, but that is NOT the case.

    The Modem Monitor applet doesn't work either (going to properties gives a general error about not being able to launch the application, though I can find no indication of what application it is trying to start).

    That said, you are still able to use the dialup connection with wvdial.

    Run wvdialconf, it should detect your modem and create a default wvdial.conf (in /etc/wvdial.conf). Edit this file to add the phone number, username and password for your ISP. Then run wvdial to connect. It's working flawlessly for me.

    That said (though I haven't tried) you can still use GnomePP or KPPP to get a GUI interface to setup the pppd parameters.

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    Re: Dialup in Ubuntu 8.10??

    It sounds like this is a fresh install of 8.10.
    Cek is right you can use wvdial to dial out and once you're connected you can download gnome-ppp for easier non-cli access.

    If you have problems with wvdial you might need to issue "pppconfig" from a terminal to set things up.
    Good site to search for guides & how-tos.

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    Re: Dialup in Ubuntu 8.10??

    Thanks for your replys,...
    but I'm really "terminally" handicapped (I don't know very much about using the terminal) if that is how to use "wvdialconf".......
    I'm still quite a bit of a linux "newbie" and guess all the time I used Ubuntu 8.04,..I was really lazy and used the GUI mostly.

    EDIT: Have been struggling in Ubuntu 8.10 for awhile now,...maybe I MIGHT be able to eventually get dialup working in it (really is a lovely looking update,...isn't it???) But I don't think Ubuntu is too very friendly to us little newbie "dial-uppers" now,....well,..the world and technical progress moves onward and forward,....(maybe time for me to look elsewhere),.........
    At least Puppy Linux (and others, still work for us,...)
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    Re: Dialup in Ubuntu 8.10??

    This works if your dial-up modem is autodetected....
    Code:
    gksudo gedit /etc/wvdial.conf
    This code is- graphical sudo run gedit (as root) the file wvdial.conf. Add your info... (default example)
    Code:
    [Dialer Defaults]
    Phone = 
    Username = 
    Password = 
    New PPPD = yes
    Save it (File-Save). Open terminal (Applications>Accessories>Terminal) and enter this...
    Code:
    sudo wvdial
    This code (using your info you added earlier to wvdial.conf) will connect you to your isp and the internet. Do NOT close terminal or do a CTRL+C as this will disconnect you. Open Software Sources (System>Administration), check all but "Sources" on the first tab and choose "Main server" (or one closer to you). On the second tab (Third-Party Software) check all. On the third tab (Updates) make sure only 1, 2, and 4 are checked (uncheck "Proposed"). Close Software sources. It will pop up a box saying that you need to reload the list. Click cancel.
    Go back to (or start another instance of) terminal. Type this in...
    Code:
    sudo apt-get update
    This will update the package list. Once that is done run this...
    Code:
    sudo apt-get install gnome-ppp
    (or sudo apt-get install kppp if you are using kubuntu) This will install the gnome dialer. Configure it. Now you can re-edit wvdial.conf back to default (no info) or not, it shouldn't matter.
    Old As Dust.

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    Re: Dialup in Ubuntu 8.10??

    Shazaam's post is spot on.

    First open a terminal, then type:

    sudo wvdialconf

    Input your password when prompted, hopefully this will autodetect your modem (it should, unless you have a winmodem).

    Then follow Shazaam's post, with each command in the same terminal window.

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    Re: Dialup in Ubuntu 8.10??

    I'm delighted at the detailed instructions (I was very discouraged and floundering in a confused stew!!!!).
    That info just may well keep me with this terrific distro,................(much appreciated!)

    EDIT: How about that! It took me only a few minutes following you folks' instructions,...........and here I am coming to you from my new Ubuntu 8.10 dial-up! I hope this thread helps out others who may be having the very same problem. (and looks like you'll be having to put up with me in and around the Ubuntu forums for a looooooooong time now)...
    Last edited by nitehawk777; November 21st, 2008 at 01:37 AM.

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    Angry Re: Dialup in Ubuntu 8.10??

    No such luck for me, cek. In the terminal window I get the message "Sorry, no modem was detected! Is it in use by another program? Did you configure it properly with setserial? Please read the FAQ at http://open.nit.ca/wiki/?WvDial
    If you still have problems, send mail to <wvdial-list@lists.nit.ca>"

    Well, that URL is a dead end, and I have not sent an email. Fool me once...

    I have been using 8.10 for about two hours now- just installed it today to get the taste of Vista out of my mouth that Dell shoved down my throat when I bought a refurbed Inspiron 530. A friend talked me into trying Linux, so here I am. The modem fired up no problem using Vista. This is ridiculous. I expected more from Ubuntu. If it's this hard just to use a dialup modem, what does my Ubuntu future hold? Can anyone help, as my results seem to vary here?

    Don't mark this "solved" just yet...

    BTW- I have a Conextant D850 PCI V.92 Modem.
    Last edited by moth17; December 7th, 2008 at 09:26 AM. Reason: more info

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    Re: Dialup in Ubuntu 8.10??

    ScamModem returns this gibberish, how do I interpret or proceed?

    Only plain text email is forwarded by the Discuss@Linmodems.org List Server,
    as HTML can contain viruses. Use as the email Subject Line:
    YourName, YourCountry kernel 2.6.27-7-generic
    With this Subject Line cogent experts will be alerted, and useful case names left in the Archive.
    YourCountry will enable Country specific guidance. Linux experts in YourCountry
    can be found through: http://www.linux.org/groups/index.html.
    They will know your Country's modem code, which may be essential for dialup service.
    Responses from Discuss@Linmodems.org are sometimes blocked by an Internet Provider mail filters.
    So in a day, also check the Archived responses at http://www.linmodems.org
    -------------------------- System information ----------------------------
    CPU=i686,
    Linux version 2.6.27-7-generic (buildd@rothera) (gcc version 4.3.2 (Ubuntu 4.3.2-1ubuntu10) ) #1 SMP Fri Oct 24 06:42:44 UTC 2008
    scanModem update of: 2008_11_06

    There are no blacklisted modem drivers in /etc/modprobe* files
    Attached USB devices are:
    ID 13fe:1f00 Kingston Technology Company Inc. DataTraveler 2.0 4GB Flash Drive
    ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
    ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
    ID 413c:3012 Dell Computer Corp.
    ID 413c:2003 Dell Computer Corp. Keyboard
    ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
    ID 05dc:0080 Lexar Media, Inc. Jumpdrive Secure 64MB
    ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
    ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
    ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
    ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
    ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub

    USB modems not recognized

    For candidate card in slot 02:00.0, firmware information and bootup diagnostics are:
    PCI slot PCI ID SubsystemID Name
    ---------- --------- --------- --------------
    02:00.0 14f1:2f20 14f1:200f Communication controller: Conexant Systems, Inc. HSF 56k Data/Fax Modem

    Modem interrupt assignment and sharing:
    --- Bootup diagnostics for card in PCI slot 02:00.0 ----
    [ 0.541131] PCI: 0000:02:00.0 reg 10 32bit mmio: [fddf0000, fddfffff]
    [ 0.541138] PCI: 0000:02:00.0 reg 14 io port: [df00, df07]
    [ 0.541178] pci 0000:02:00.0: PME# supported from D3hot D3cold
    [ 0.541183] pci 0000:02:00.0: PME# disabled

    The PCI slot 02:00.0 of the modem card may be disabled early in
    a bootup process, but then enabled later. If modem drivers load
    but the modem is not responsive, read DOCs/Bootup.txt about possible fixes.
    Send dmesg.txt along with ModemData.txt to discuss@linmodems.org
    if help is needed.


    For candidate card in slot 00:1b.0, firmware information and bootup diagnostics are:
    PCI slot PCI ID SubsystemID Name
    ---------- --------- --------- --------------
    00:1b.0 8086:293e 1028:020d Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I

    Modem interrupt assignment and sharing:
    22: 1425 1457 IO-APIC-fasteoi HDA Intel
    --- Bootup diagnostics for card in PCI slot 00:1b.0 ----
    [ 0.540355] PCI: 0000:00:1b.0 reg 10 64bit mmio: [fdff4000, fdff7fff]
    [ 0.540394] pci 0000:00:1b.0: PME# supported from D0 D3hot D3cold
    [ 0.540398] pci 0000:00:1b.0: PME# disabled
    [ 12.478750] HDA Intel 0000:00:1b.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 22 (level, low) -> IRQ 22
    [ 12.478778] HDA Intel 0000:00:1b.0: setting latency timer to 64

    The PCI slot 00:1b.0 of the modem card may be disabled early in
    a bootup process, but then enabled later. If modem drivers load
    but the modem is not responsive, read DOCs/Bootup.txt about possible fixes.
    Send dmesg.txt along with ModemData.txt to discuss@linmodems.org
    if help is needed.



    ===== Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (ALSA) diagnostics =====
    The ALSA packages provide audio support and also drivers for some modems.
    ALSA diagnostics are written during bootup to /proc/asound/ folders.

    The ALSA verion is 1.0.17
    The modem cards detected by "aplay -l" are: None


    The /proc/asound/pcm file reports:
    -----------------------
    00-02: ALC888 Analog : ALC888 Analog : capture 1
    00-01: ALC888 Digital : ALC888 Digital : playback 1 : capture 1
    00-00: ALC888 Analog : ALC888 Analog : playback 1 : capture 1

    about /proc/asound/cards:
    ------------------------
    0 [Intel ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
    HDA Intel at 0xfdff4000 irq 22

    PCI slot 00:1b.0 has a High Definition Audio Card
    The drivers are in the kernel modules tree at:
    /lib/modules/2.6.27-7-generic/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko
    === Finished firmware and bootup diagnostics, next deducing cogent software. ===

    Predictive diagnostics for card in bus 02:00.0:
    Modem chipset detected on
    NAME="Communication controller: Conexant Systems, Inc. HSF 56k Data/Fax Modem"
    CLASS=0780
    PCIDEV=14f1:2f20
    SUBSYS=14f1:200f
    IRQ=4
    IDENT=hsfmodem
    Driver=hsfmodem-drivers

    For candidate modem in: 02:00.0
    0780 Communication controller: Conexant Systems, Inc. HSF 56k Data/Fax Modem
    Primary device ID: 14f1:2f20
    Support type needed or chipset: hsfmodem



    Writing DOCs/Intel.txt

    For owners of a Dell PCs with Conexant HSF modems, a driver source package with full speed enabled is available, but requires driver compiling. Read DOCs/Conexant.txt


    Start at http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hsf/...ds-license.php to find the
    hsfmodem package matching your System. For several Linux distros, there are
    precompiled drivers matched to specific kernels. These have within the FileName,
    your KernelVersion: 2.6.27_7_generic
    They can be found through http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hsf/full/downloads.php
    A more precise location may be given a few paragraphs below.
    If an EXACT Match with your your KernelVersion is not found, one of the
    "Generic packages with source" near the bottom of the page must be used.
    Downloaded packages must be moved into the Linux partition (home folder is OK)
    and unzipped with:
    unzip hsf*.zip
    The installation command for a .deb suffic packages is, with root/adm permission:
    sudo dpkg -i hsf*.deb
    while for .rpm suffix it is, with:
    rpm -i hsf*.rpm
    From http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hsf/...ubuntu-x86.php
    download hsfmodem-7.68.00.12full_k2.6.27_7_generic_ubuntu_i386.deb.z ip
    Under Linux unpack with:
    $ unzip hsfmodem*.zip
    Then install with:
    $ sudo dpkg -i hsfmodem*.deb
    Subsequently, the modem should be found with
    $ sudo wvdialconf /etc/wvdial.conf
    Edit in your personal information with:
    $ sudo gedit /etc/wvdial.conf
    and try dialing out with:
    $ sudo wvdial.
    See DOCs/Testing.txt for details.

    Read DOCs/Conexant.txt

    Writing DOCs/Conexant.txt



    Predictive diagnostics for card in bus 00:1b.0:
    Modem chipset not detected on
    NAME="Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I "
    CLASS=0403
    PCIDEV=8086:293e
    SUBSYS=1028:020d
    IRQ=22
    HDA=8086:293e
    SOFT=8086:293e.HDA


    High Definition Audio (HDA) cards MAY host a modem chip in their Subsystem,
    and many are supported by the ALSA audio+modem driver snd-hda-intel
    A modem was not detected on HDA card 8086:293e.
    If another modem card is present, then most likely 8086:293e does not host a modem.
    If another modem card has not been detected, then possibilities are:
    1) A Conexant modem chip is present on 8086:293e, as Conexant chips
    are frequently not detectable by ALSA diagnostics
    2) The modem may be of the older non-PCI Controller Chipset (hardware) type.
    Try detection with Root permission:
    sudo wvdialconf /etc/wvdial.conf

    For candidate modem in: 00:1b.0
    0403 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I
    Primary device ID: 8086:293e
    Subsystem PCI_id 1028:020d
    Softmodem codec or chipset from diagnostics:
    from Archives:



    Support type needed or chipset:

    Support can likely be achieved through two mutually exclusive alternatives:
    1) The hsfmodem software for Conexant chipset modems: Read DOCs/Conexant.txt
    The following ALSA alternative CANNOT work with Conexant modems.

    2) An ALSA modem driver plus slmodemd. Read DOCs/Smartlink.txt for details, and
    to test get the package SLMODEMD.gcc4.3.tar.gz from:
    http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/smartlink/

    ----------------end Softmodem section --------------
    Writing DOCs/Smartlink.txt
    ============ end Smartlink section =====================

    Completed candidate modem analyses.

    The base of the UDEV device file system is: /dev/.udev

    Versions adequately match for the compiler installed: 4.3.2
    and the compiler used in kernel assembly: 4.3.2



    Minimal compiling resources appear complete:
    make utility - /usr/bin/make
    Compiler version 4.3
    linuc_headers base folder /lib/modules/2.6.27-7-generic/build

    However some compilations and executable functions may need additional files,
    in the FileNames.h (so called kernel "h"eaders) collection installed in /usr/include/ .
    For martian_modem, additional required packages are needed. The also required headers of package libc6 are commonly installed by default.
    Compiling hsfmodem drivers does require linux-libc-dev and libc6-dev packages, for kernels 2.6.24 and later versions.
    In not included on your install CD, search for them at http://packages.ubuntu.com
    or comparable Repository for other Linux distros.
    When compiling ALSA drivers, the utility "patch" will also be needed.




    If a driver compilation fails, with message including some lack of some FileName.h (stdio.h for example), then
    Some additional kernel-header files need installation to /usr/include. The minimal additional packages are libc6-dev
    and any of its dependents, under Ubuntu linux-libc-dev

    If an alternate ethernet connection is available,
    $ apt-get update
    $ apt-get -s install linux-kernel-devel
    will install needed packages.
    For Debian/Ubuntu related distributions, run the following command to display the needed package list:

    Otherwise packages have to be found through http://packages.ubuntu.com
    Once downloaded and transferred into a Linux partition,
    they can be installed alltogether with:
    $ sudo dpkg -i *.deb


    Checking pppd properties:
    -rwsr-xr-- 1 root dip 273064 2008-10-15 18:51 /usr/sbin/pppd

    In case of an "error 17" "serial loopback" problem, see:
    http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/linm.../msg02637.html

    To enable dialout without Root permission do:
    $ su - root (not for Ubuntu)
    sudo chmod a+x /usr/sbin/pppd
    or under Ubuntu related Linuxes
    sudo chmod a+x /usr/sbin/pppd

    Checking settings of: /etc/ppp/options
    asyncmap 0
    noauth
    crtscts
    lock
    hide-password
    modem
    proxyarp
    lcp-echo-interval 30
    lcp-echo-failure 4
    noipx

    In case of a message like:
    Warning: Could not modify /etc/ppp/pap-secrets: Permission denied
    see http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/biga.../msg04656.html

    Read Modem/DOCs/YourSystem.txt concerning other COMM channels: eth0
    Which can interfere with Browser naviagation.

    Don't worry about the following, it is for experts should trouble shooting be necessary.
    ================================================== ========

    Checking for modem support lines:
    --------------------------------------
    /device/modem symbolic link:
    slmodemd created symbolic link /dev/ttySL0:
    Within /etc/udev/ files:

    Within /etc/modprobe.conf files:
    /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-baseptions snd-atiixp-modem index=-2
    /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-baseptions snd-via82xx-modem index=-2
    /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-modem:# Uncomment these entries in order to blacklist unwanted modem drivers
    /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-modem:# blacklist snd-atiixp-modem
    /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-modem:# blacklist snd-via82xx-modem
    Within any ancient /etc/devfs files:

    Within ancient kernel 2.4.n /etc/module.conf files:

    --------- end modem support lines --------

    This is nuts. I'm getting ready to chuck this. "User friendly" and "plug-and-play" my a$$. Do I dare even trying to connect a printer now? If I had a degree in Comp Sci and was retired maybe I could surf the dozen forums I have been across in the last day and make this work.

    Losing hope.
    Last edited by moth17; December 7th, 2008 at 07:47 PM. Reason: FRUSTRATION

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    Re: Dialup in Ubuntu 8.10??

    It seems like a solution could be here- but I'm afraid I could start doing real damage at this point:

    http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hsf/install.php

    I downloaded what is hopefully the right driver: hsfmodem_7.68.00.14full_k2.6.27_7_generic_ubuntu_i 386.deb.zip
    located at http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hsf/...ubuntu-x86.php

    and I'm inferring I should follow the instruction labled "METHOD B: DEBIAN PACKAGE (*.deb)" , but I'm thinking I should stop here and get some guidance, because I really have no idea what I'm doing and I don't want to make a bigger mess.

    Anybody out there?
    Last edited by moth17; December 7th, 2008 at 10:18 PM.

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