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    Re: LaTeX / LyX vs. Word Processing

    As a further shameless plug for lyx (apart from my moniker that is ), in the next version (1.4) there is going to be extensive support for collaboration. See here:

    http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/NewInLyX14

    And since someone said latex is better than lyx above, here's why you should use lyx:

    http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/ReasonsToUseLyxInsteadOfLatex

    btw I wrote my thesis with latex in 1986

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    Re: LaTeX / LyX vs. Word Processing

    ...and I did mine in the original TeX around the same time.

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    Re: LaTeX / LyX vs. Word Processing

    Quote Originally Posted by kleeman
    As a further shameless plug for lyx (apart from my moniker that is ), in the next version (1.4) there is going to be extensive support for collaboration. See here:

    http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/NewInLyX14
    The change tracking and branches in the new LyX version sound great! Here is my problem, however... Collaboration only becomes a "cinch" if your colleagues are using LyX as well. I'm living in a Microsoft world, and although i really don't want to be a Microsoft girl, the reality is that until I have a way to export the LyX files EASILY to a .doc or .rtf format, using LyX or LaTeX is not going to be a possibility. Even if there were a way to export it to the new open document format or something would make things easier for me. I realize that this kind of defeats the purpose of using Latex in the first place, so maybe its just not going to work for me.
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    Re: LaTeX / LyX vs. Word Processing

    Quote Originally Posted by parktownprawn
    There may be in the future (http://bibliographic.openoffice.org)
    yeah... this was originally a goal for 2.0, but got put on the back burner. Very disappointing. I'm just really surprised that even though the majority of OOo users are in the academic world, bibliography management seems to be a really low priority. I sometimes wish that insead of trying to make things "easy" for MS Word converts, they would just continue focusing on making the product better. Adding useful features such as this would do more for adoption than any amount of MS cloning. Just one man's opinion...
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    Re: LaTeX / LyX vs. Word Processing

    Quote Originally Posted by akniss
    The change tracking and branches in the new LyX version sound great! Here is my problem, however... Collaboration only becomes a "cinch" if your colleagues are using LyX as well. I'm living in a Microsoft world
    well even if you are writing a paper with someone who isn't using Linux you may still be able to convince them to use Lyx for windows.

    http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows


    back when i still made regular use of my windows partition i had lyx working under XP without any problems
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    Re: LaTeX / LyX vs. Word Processing

    Quote Originally Posted by parktownprawn
    well even if you are writing a paper with someone who isn't using Linux you may still be able to convince them to use Lyx for windows.

    http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows


    back when i still made regular use of my windows partition i had lyx working under XP without any problems
    Yeah this is a good point. I think Lyx (for Windows) is actually better than Scientific Word which was my old Winblows option. Of course this presumes you are dealing with tons of equations or difficult typesetting.

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    Re: LaTeX / LyX vs. Word Processing

    I rarely need to use more than a few 'special' symbols in formulas. As for typesetting, the stylist in OOo nearly always does the trick. The only thing I'm really missing is the bibliography mgt, which several folks have given me pointers on. I guess for my needs, latex really doesn't offer a huge advantage, especially since it IS compatible with Word, which most of my colleagues use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kleeman
    As a further shameless plug for lyx (apart from my moniker that is ), in the next version (1.4) there is going to be extensive support for collaboration. See here:

    http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/NewInLyX14

    And since someone said latex is better than lyx above, here's why you should use lyx:

    http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/ReasonsToUseLyxInsteadOfLatex

    btw I wrote my thesis with latex in 1986
    I am glad to find a discussion thread on Lyx. I just started using Lyx on Linux (Ubuntu), and I love it. I have run into a problem trying to get citations and bibliographies. I have the database of references in bibtex format. I tell Lyx to add that bibliographic section at the end of the paper and add citations at appropriate places in the text.

    When I view dvi, all I get for the citations in the text is (?,?) and no reference list appears at all at the end of the paper. I don't even get the Reference section inserted into the paper.

    Any idea why this is happening? I am using apacite as the bibliographic style, but it doesn't seem to matter what I do with this database, nothing gets the citations into the text.

    Jim

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    Re: LaTeX / LyX vs. Word Processing

    So you need to do two things generally for this to work:

    1) Insert ---> Lists and TOC ---> Bibtex Bibliography

    A rectangle appears at the end of the paper and if you click on it you will get a dialog where you need to specifiy the location of your bib file.


    2) Insert ---> Citation

    A dialog opens and you need to highlight the reference you want. Double click on it and then click OK.

    If this is what you did and it is not working with any bib style then I would suspect your setup. Do you have natbib checked in Layout ---> Document--->Bibliography ? I don't and have had problems with it.

    There is a good wiki here btw:

    http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/BibTeX/BibTeX

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    Re: LaTeX / LyX vs. Word Processing

    Quote Originally Posted by kleeman
    So you need to do two things generally for this to work:

    1) Insert ---> Lists and TOC ---> Bibtex Bibliography

    A rectangle appears at the end of the paper and if you click on it you will get a dialog where you need to specifiy the location of your bib file.


    2) Insert ---> Citation

    A dialog opens and you need to highlight the reference you want. Double click on it and then click OK.

    If this is what you did and it is not working with any bib style then I would suspect your setup. Do you have natbib checked in Layout ---> Document--->Bibliography ? I don't and have had problems with it.

    There is a good wiki here btw:

    http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/BibTeX/BibTeX
    Thanks. I followed your instructions and found out after many trials that the bibtex file that I was using had an illegal line break between multiple authors, so Lyx would not process it correctly. After removing those line breaks, it worked as it should. Now I have to get the reference export routine in my citation software to stop putting those line breaks between multiple authors in the bibtex export.

    Jim

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