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  1. #21
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    Re: Creativ ZEN X-fi

    Indeed, seems like Glennric removed them from his PPA. Until someone finds another PPA, or a way to backport the package, it seems to me that you'll need to download the source and compile.

    I know there's a 3.7 package for karmic, so maybe there's a way to use it, changing the repos, updating the package information and installing only libmp and its dependencies, and then reverting the sources list. However, I'm not using Ubuntu anymore and I can't test it, so I won't recommend to try such a thing to anyone. Maybe there's some way to ask for people in Ubuntu to backport it to Jaunty, or maybe you can find it on someone else's PPA.

    Edit:
    I just found Savvas Radevic PPA with i383 and amd64 binaries, but it's highly experimental, so use it at your own risk. There are instructions to add it in their launchpad page, so it shouldn't pose any problem. You can, in case you just added the Glennric PPA remove it. Hope it works
    Last edited by alezflute; June 4th, 2009 at 11:28 AM. Reason: Found PPA

  2. #22
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    Re: Creativ ZEN X-fi

    I did the trick and now it works as a charm.
    Thank you.

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    Re: Creativ ZEN X-fi

    I'm having problems with my Zen X-Fi freezing when I try to interact with it using mtp-detect or gnomad2 (banshee doesn't recognize that it's there). Running mtp-detect, it's able to finish but if I try to mtp-detect again afterwards, it's unable to do so:

    Code:
    brian@brian-laptop:~$ mtp-detect
    libmtp version: 0.3.5
    
    Listing raw device(s)
       Found 1 device(s):
       Creative: ZEN X-Fi (041e:4162) @ bus 0, dev 6
    Attempting to connect device(s)
    Error 2: PTP Layer error 02ff: get_all_metadata_fast(): could not get proplist of all objects.
    Error 2: (Look this up in ptp.h for an explanation.)
    Error 2: PTP Layer error 02ff: get_handles_recursively(): could not get object handles.
    Error 2: (Look this up in ptp.h for an explanation.)
    USB low-level info:
       Using kernel interface "usbfs"
       bcdUSB: 512
       bDeviceClass: 255
       bDeviceSubClass: 0
       bDeviceProtocol: 0
       idVendor: 041e
       idProduct: 4162
       IN endpoint maxpacket: 512 bytes
       OUT endpoint maxpacket: 512 bytes
       Raw device info:
          Bus location: 0
          Device number: 6
          Device entry info:
             Vendor: Creative
             Vendor id: 0x041e
             Product: ZEN X-Fi
             Vendor id: 0x4162
             Device flags: 0x00000000
    Device info:
       Manufacturer: Creative Technology Ltd
       Model: Creative ZEN X-Fi
       Device version: 1.04.08_1.03.03
       Serial number: 130300006B749DAF0002D409F474DDAF
       Vendor extension ID: 0x00000006
       Vendor extension description: microsoft.com: 1.0;microsoft.com/WMPPD: 10.0;microsoft.com/WMDRMPD: 10.1;audible.com: 1.0;
       Detected object size: 64 bits
    Supported operations:
       1001: get device info
       1002: Open session
       1003: Close session
       1004: Get storage IDs
       1005: Get storage info
       1007: Get object handles
       100c: Send object info
       100d: Send object
       100f: Format storage
       1014: Get device property description
       1015: Get device property value
       1006: Get number of objects
       1008: Get object info
       1009: Get object
       100b: Delete object
       1010: Reset device
       1012: Set object protection
       1016: Set device property value
       1017: Reset device property value
       1019: Move object
       101b: Get partial object
       9801: Get object properties supported
       9802: Get object property description
       9803: Get object property value
       9804: Set object property value
       9805: Get object property list
       9806: Set object property list
       9808: Send object property list
       9807: Get interdependent property description
       9810: Get object references
       9811: Set object references
       9201: Report Added/Deleted Items
       9101: Get secure time challenge
       9102: Get secure time response
       9103: Set license response
       9104: Get sync list
       9105: Send meter challenge query
       9106: Get meter challenge
       9107: Get meter response
       9108: Clean data store
       9109: Get license state
       910a: Send WMDRM-PD Command
       910b: Send WMDRM-PD Request
    Events supported:
       0x4006
    Device Properties Supported:
       0x5001: Battery Level
       0xd401: Synchronization Partner
       0xd402: Friendly Device Name
       0xd101: Secure Time
       0xd102: Device Certificate
       0xd201: Unknown property
       0xd001: Unknown property
    Playable File (Object) Types and Object Properties Supported:
       3009: MP3
       b901: WMA
       3008: MS Wave
       b904: Audible.com Codec
       b982: MP4
       ba03: Abstract Audio Album
       ba05: Abstract Audio Video Playlist
       ba01: Abstract Multimedia Album
       3801: JPEG
       300a: MS AVI
       300c: ASF
       b981: WMV
       bb83: vCard3
       be03: vCalendar2
       b802: Firmware
       3000: Undefined Type
       3001: Association/Directory
    Storage Devices:
       StorageID: 0x00010001
          StorageType: 0x0003 fixed RAM storage
          FilesystemType: 0x0002 generic hierarchical
          AccessCapability: 0x0000 read/write
          MaxCapacity: 32127975424
          FreeSpaceInBytes: 6636306432
          FreeSpaceInObjects: 4294967295
          StorageDescription: Storage Media
          VolumeIdentifier: 130300006B749DAF0002D409F474DDAF
    Special directories:
       Default music folder: 0x00000000
       Default playlist folder: 0x00000000
       Default picture folder: 0x00000000
       Default video folder: 0x00000000
       Default organizer folder: 0x00000000
       Default zencast folder: 0x00000000
       Default album folder: 0x00000000
       Default text folder: 0x00000000
    MTP-specific device properties:
       Friendly name: (NULL)
       Synchronization partner: (NULL)
    libmtp supported (playable) filetypes:
       ISO MPEG-1 Audio Layer 3
       Microsoft Windows Media Audio
       RIFF WAVE file
       Audible.com Audio Codec
       MPEG-4 Part 14 Container Format (Audio+Video Empahsis)
       JPEG file
       Audio Video Interleave
       Microsoft Advanced Systems Format
       Microsoft Windows Media Video
       VCard version 3
       VCalendar version 2
       Firmware file
    Unable to acquire device certificate, perhaps this device does not support this
    Error 2: PTP Layer error 02ff: get_device_unicode_property(): failed to get unicode property.
    Error 2: (Look this up in ptp.h for an explanation.)
    ERROR: Could not close session!
    inep: usb_get_endpoint_status(): Protocol error
    outep: usb_get_endpoint_status(): Protocol error
    usb_clear_halt() on IN endpoint: Protocol error
    usb_clear_halt() on OUT endpoint: Protocol error
    usb_clear_halt() on INTERRUPT endpoint: Protocol error
    OK.
    brian@brian-laptop:~$ mtp-detect
    libmtp version: 0.3.5
    
    Listing raw device(s)
       No raw devices found.

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    Re: Creativ ZEN X-fi

    Well, as I see, your libmtp version is 3.5. Maybe your zen x-fi is freezing because libmtp-detect doesn't close well. I suggest you to try to upgrade to 3.6 version of libmtp (the one coming with ubuntu karmic). Either you download and install it manually (maybe you'll have to uninstall your current libmtp first or change your sources.list, upgrade only this package (unless you want to get a hint of karmic alpha ) and then put your sources back. I think just downloading the package would be the most sensible idea. To install it, double-clicking should launch the package installer, or you go to its location in a terminal and sudo dpkg -i it. I don't know to what extent it would mess with your pc, but I think it should be just fine. Again, i don't have an ubuntu box to test it, since in Archlinux libmtp is updated almost since it got released. If it still doesn't work, verify you don't have any corrupted files on your creative player.

  5. #25
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    Re: Creativ ZEN X-fi

    Quote Originally Posted by alezflute View Post
    Well, as I see, your libmtp version is 3.5. Maybe your zen x-fi is freezing because libmtp-detect doesn't close well. I suggest you to try to upgrade to 3.6 version of libmtp (the one coming with ubuntu karmic). Either you download and install it manually (maybe you'll have to uninstall your current libmtp first or change your sources.list, upgrade only this package (unless you want to get a hint of karmic alpha ) and then put your sources back. I think just downloading the package would be the most sensible idea. To install it, double-clicking should launch the package installer, or you go to its location in a terminal and sudo dpkg -i it. I don't know to what extent it would mess with your pc, but I think it should be just fine. Again, i don't have an ubuntu box to test it, since in Archlinux libmtp is updated almost since it got released. If it still doesn't work, verify you don't have any corrupted files on your creative player.
    Nope, it still freezes.

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    Re: Creativ ZEN X-fi

    Well, if you updated libmtp, and you have your libmtp rules (as it seems you do since otherwise the player wouldn't be recognized) i think you have a corrupted file which makes libmtp go crazy. I suggest to find a windows machine to try to connect with the creative software to see if there's something wrong like i said, or if you need some firmware upgrade. Mine worked flawlessly since the beginning, but if yours' firmware is different it may be the problem. In any case, keep posting the code you get to see if anyone else can help.

  7. #27
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    Re: Creativ ZEN X-fi

    Quote Originally Posted by alezflute View Post
    Well, if you updated libmtp, and you have your libmtp rules (as it seems you do since otherwise the player wouldn't be recognized) i think you have a corrupted file which makes libmtp go crazy. I suggest to find a windows machine to try to connect with the creative software to see if there's something wrong like i said, or if you need some firmware upgrade. Mine worked flawlessly since the beginning, but if yours' firmware is different it may be the problem. In any case, keep posting the code you get to see if anyone else can help.
    I usually update my mp3 player from my windows install and that's the only reason I'm still using windows. I'm pretty sure my firmware's up to date but I'll have to double check that. Maybe I'll wipe everything on the zen x-fi and put the stuff back on in case there are any corrupted files.

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    Re: Creativ ZEN X-fi

    So I formatted my zen x-fi and now mtp-detect doesn't show anything.

    Code:
    brian@brian-laptop:~$ mtp-detect
    libmtp version: 0.3.0
    
    Listing raw device(s)
       No raw devices found.

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    Re: Creativ ZEN X-fi

    I've got my zen x-fi being recognised by gnomad2, alls good there. My problem is when transferring media from the x-fi to my laptop it'll transfer 1- 2 songs before gnomad2 then crashes. Anybody come across this before? I thought i was maybe trying to transfer too many files so i tested it using smaller amounts but the same thing keeps happening. Weird.
    Googled it and had a look around the forums but i couldn't see anything relative.
    Thanks.
    "if he dies, he dies" - nemanja vidic

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    Re: Creativ ZEN X-fi

    Quote Originally Posted by I[AM]SMRT View Post
    So I formatted my zen x-fi and now mtp-detect doesn't show anything.

    Code:
    brian@brian-laptop:~$ mtp-detect
    libmtp version: 0.3.0
    
    Listing raw device(s)
       No raw devices found.
    I don't know how you did this, but your libmtp version is now too low. Before it was ok (0.3.5) although you may still need the libmtp rules for it to work. That you find out by typing mtp-detect and reading the outcome. It's all written before in the post. Hope it helps

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