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    Comparing speeds on Ubuntu 8.04 vs. Windows XP

    I was confronted by a windows XP user who informed me that Windows works faster than Linux. I have tested two similar Dell XPS m1330, one with Ubuntu and another with Windows to see how they compared when it came to speed.

    -Firefox Web Page Loading Time: Same

    -Flash Web Page Resources:
    XP Memory: 65MB
    Linux Memory: 45MB
    XP CPU: 16%
    Linux CPU: 9%

    -Wifi signal strength: Same
    -File copy speed (7GB):
    NTFS -> NTFS: 5 Min
    ext3 -> ext3: 8 min

    -Firefox Load Time: XP is a millisecond faster

    -Full Geekbench Benchmark results:
    Linux: http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/view/67132
    XP: http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/view/67133

    -All I have to say:
    Interesting...
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    Re: Comparing speeds on Ubuntu 8.04 vs. Windows XP

    XP is also faster to boot in a fresh install

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    Ubuntu 8.04 slower than XP on the same box, hmm...

    Hi,

    This is my second go at trying to replace XP with Linux (I previously tried Kubuntu 7.10, but was put off by the difficulties I had trying to get simple stuff done and the apps I needed installed.)

    I now have a clean install of Ubuntu 8.04, with all the current system updates set up on my Compaq D515 desktop.

    I have it dual-booting with Win XP SP3 on another partition.

    I've been disappointed (and a bit surprised!) that Ubuntu is noticeably slower and more sluggish at comparable tasks when compared to XP. I haven't actually timed anything yet.

    One direct comparison was to run Firefox 3.0 on both machines and visit a few websites. The screen update under Ubuntu is definitely slower. And on one website (the "In The Night Garden" childrens pages on the abc.net.au website) which is very flash-intensive Firefox on Ubuntu positively crawls...

    I have all of the eye candy turned OFF in both Ubuntu and XP.

    The spec of the machine are:

    P4 1.8GHz
    512MB RAM
    40GB HDD
    Intel 82845 integrated GFX controller

    I'm using the correct Linux GFX driver for the Intel 845 too...

    Surely Ubuntu should run better than this?

    What can I tweak to improve the performance of Ubuntu?

    Cheers,

    Mike.
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    Re: Ubuntu 8.04 slower than XP on the same box, hmm...

    Quote Originally Posted by mingle View Post
    I have all of the eye candy turned on in both Ubuntu and XP.
    Does XP have any eyecandy comparable to that of Ubuntu? (ie compiz)

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    Re: Ubuntu 8.04 slower than XP on the same box, hmm...

    Quote Originally Posted by mingle View Post
    I've been disappointed (and a bit surprised!) that Ubuntu is noticeably slower and more sluggish at comparable tasks when compared to XP. I haven't actually timed anything yet.
    Humans are very bad at objectively comparing software speeds without a timer. Everyone gets caught in the trap of "It feels slower" but, often once you measure things, it turns out that it's just "Not faster".

    One direct comparison was to run Firefox 3.0 on both machines and visit a few websites. The screen update under Ubuntu is definitely slower. And on one website (the "In The Night Garden" childrens pages on the abc.net.au website) which is very flash-intensive Firefox on Ubuntu positively crawls...
    The flash part isn't surprising. Flash is closed source and not well optmized for linux. Having said that, I've recently installed Flash 10 and noticed a dramatic decrease in CPU usage. If you want to try that out, this guide looks like it will probably work: http://rockmanx.wordpress.com/2008/0...u-hardy-heron/

    I have all of the eye candy turned on in both Ubuntu and XP.
    This is apples and oranges. The "eye candy" in Ubuntu will probably include compiz whereas the "eye candy" on XP might anti-alias some fonts if you are lucky. On more recent cards (at least nvidia cards) compiz makes the desktop more responsive but, on older cards, may decrease the performance of the machine. Try going to System->Preference->Visual Effects and select "None" and see if that helps a bit.
    Don't try to make something "fast" until you are able to quantify "slow".

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    Re: Ubuntu 8.04 slower than XP on the same box, hmm...

    Oops!

    I meant to say I have all the eye candy turned OFF in both XP and Ubuntu...

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    Re: Ubuntu 8.04 slower than XP on the same box, hmm...

    Quote Originally Posted by mingle View Post
    Oops!

    I meant to say I have all the eye candy turned OFF in both XP and Ubuntu...
    That makes a bit of a difference.

    I would still try Flash 10 and see if that helps. It's still beta but, it did seem to drastically reduce CPU usage for me.
    Don't try to make something "fast" until you are able to quantify "slow".

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    Re: Ubuntu 8.04 slower than XP on the same box, hmm...

    My only suggestion is that a program regularly goes zombie, or somthing, and eats all your ram, leaving you swapping. When you boot, run the following in a terminal
    Code:
    top
    and then do some normal things that ubuntu seems to choke on. While you are doing these, post the output of the top command.
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    Re: Ubuntu 8.04 slower than XP on the same box, hmm...

    I recently Installed WindowsXP in my Intel Celeron 2 Ghz 1 GB Ram and I also noticed that Ubuntu runs slower in comparison to WindowsXP. But I like the Ubuntu gui very much. But installing new softwares is a pain in ubuntu. Asking too much dependencies

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    Re: Ubuntu 8.04 slower than XP on the same box, hmm...

    Flash 10.0 is a little bit snappier than 9, but it still lags behind the XP version...

    Also, my boot times for Ubuntu is 1'06" compared to 50" for XP (an that's running anti-virus/anti-spyware...

    Any easy way to improve the boot times?

    Are there any patches/libraries or drivers that can speed up Ubuntu?

    I know that XP is (although I've had zero stability issues with it in over 5 years!) not exactly a 'lightweight' or compact OS, but it seems that Linux (as a desktop alternative) is just as unwieldy and creaky...

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but in Ubuntu, first you load the basic Linux OS, then X-windows, the the windows manager (Gnome).

    Is that why it takes so long to get to a working desktop?

    After my try with 7.10, 8.04 is getting there, but it still can't replace my XP box... Maybe in Ubuntu 9.x?

    Cheers,

    Mike.

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