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    Citadel sucks

    I have been trying to set up a Citadel mail server, but I'm having problems. First of all, I'm using external accounting so I can use an LDAP server for authentication. However, when a new user logs into webcit, it fails to log them in the first time, and the error is nothing but part or sometimes all of their password! I can work around this, making sure the citadel account is created after I set them up in the LDAP server.

    There was no way of disabling the chat or instant messaging features. I was able to work around this with some creative apache configuration.
    Code:
    ProxyPass /chat http://127.0.0.1:81/
    ProxyPassReverse /chat http://127.0.0.1:81/
    ProxyPass /page_user http://127.0.0.1:81/
    ProxyPassReverse /page_user http://127.0.0.1:81/
    ProxyPass /who http://127.0.0.1:81/
    ProxyPassReverse /who http://127.0.0.1:81/
    ProxyPass /denied.jpg http://127.0.0.1:81/denied.jpg
    ProxyPassReverse /denied.jpg http://127.0.0.1:81/denied.jpg
    ProxyPass / http://127.0.0.1:8504/
    ProxyPassReverse / http://127.0.0.1:8504/
    Now I'm trying to use the per-user sieve filter to move spam into a certain folder using webcit. I have spamassassin configured with postfix, so the spam mail goes to the user's inbox flagged as spam in the message header. I can't get the x-spam-flag or x-spam-status conditions to work with the rule-builder. Whenever I create a custom sieve script, it says it saves, but then it isn't listed in the "add or delete" menu. If I try to edit it, it is empty.

    Does anyone have any ideas for possible solutions or troubleshooting steps? Does anyone recommend a reliable alternative to citadel? Something that will work with an outlook connector, and preferably something that integrates well with evolution.

    I'm using Citadel 7.35.
    Last edited by cdenley; May 22nd, 2008 at 08:40 PM.

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    Re: Citadel sucks

    I've been running Citadel reliably for a long time. It works purrrfectly.

    I suggest that you go to the Citadel web site and use the Easy Install script to install it. Once it is working, then you can try to modify it.

    Cheers,

    Herman

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    Re: Citadel sucks

    What the heck is Citadel?

    -Tim
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    Re: Citadel sucks

    Quote Originally Posted by HermanAB View Post
    I've been running Citadel reliably for a long time. It works purrrfectly.

    I suggest that you go to the Citadel web site and use the Easy Install script to install it. Once it is working, then you can try to modify it.

    Cheers,

    Herman
    It was working, except for the problems I mentioned. I tried purging/reinstalling, but had the same problems. I tried purging, then using the easyinstall script as you suggested, but it's even worse. Not only do I have the same problems, but I can't get external accounting to work. The users get created in citadel, but it keeps telling me it's the wrong password.

    Now I can't get the debian install working either! I reinstalled through apt several times and never had this problem until the easyinstall. Any ideas? The LDAP server and PAM are still working fine.

    Do you use external accounting? What version are you running? Have you tried writing then editing sieve filter scripts?
    Last edited by cdenley; May 22nd, 2008 at 10:23 PM.

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    Re: Citadel sucks

    I got an answer from their BBS uncensored support room.
    there was a bug which is fixed now. please hang on for it to be released within the next days.
    I guess my main original issue is in the process of being fixed, but now I still have to get authentication working again.

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    Re: Citadel sucks

    I finally got it working again by deleting /etc/pam.d/citadel. Hopefully their upcoming release will fix my sieve filter problems, and maybe it will even stop printing my password in the web browser the first time I try logging in.

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    Re: Citadel sucks

    I've used Citadel a bit and never liked the nearly ancient web BBS style it still uses. Heck, I remember in 1993 dialing up to better laid out text only BBS's over a 9600 baud modem.

    If you want a decent layout, good tech, and easy to use/admin, take a look at Zimbra.

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    Re: Citadel sucks

    Quote Originally Posted by quietas View Post
    I've used Citadel a bit and never liked the nearly ancient web BBS style it still uses. Heck, I remember in 1993 dialing up to better laid out text only BBS's over a 9600 baud modem.

    If you want a decent layout, good tech, and easy to use/admin, take a look at Zimbra.
    If your concern is only a matter of looks, try the Blue Citadel theme.

    The nice thing about Citadel, it that it "Just Works" (TM). It is hard to beat that feature.

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    Re: Citadel sucks

    The sieve filter in webcit still doesn't seem to work in 7.36. I upgraded using the debian packages. I still couldn't filter using the x-spam-status or x-spam-flag rules. I couldn't seem to get the script editor to work, either. After I saved a script, if I went back to edit it, it was blank. The script didn't seem to work, either. I thought maybe I needed to start fresh and clear all my data from 7.35.

    Code:
    dpkg -P citadel-client citadel-common citadel-server citadel-webcit citadel-mta libcitadel1
    rm -rf /var/lib/citadel /etc/citadel /usr/share/citadel-webcit /var/run/citadel
    apt-get install citadel-client citadel-common citadel-server citadel-webcit libcitadel1
    In webcit, I entered my username and password, and I assume it created a citadel account (I'm using external accounting). I entered the admin username and password, same thing. I logged in as the admin, and I got an error saying it couldn't connect to the mail server or something. Then I noticed my computer was beeping indefinitely because of the ssh terminal I had connected to the citadel server. The terminal was unusable
    Code:
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:44 2008 ...
    citadel last message repeated 12 times
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:44 2008 ...
    citadel citadel: cdb_*: Berkeley DB panic: 22
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:44 2008 ...
    citadel citadel: cdb_*: Berkeley DB panic: -30977
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:45 2008 ...
    citadel last message repeated 12 times
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:45 2008 ...
    citadel citadel: cdb_*: Berkeley DB panic: 22
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:45 2008 ...
    citadel citadel: cdb_*: Berkeley DB panic: -30977
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:45 2008 ...
    citadel last message repeated 12 times
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:45 2008 ...
    citadel citadel: cdb_*: Berkeley DB panic: 22
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:45 2008 ...
    citadel citadel: cdb_*: Berkeley DB panic: -30977
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:45 2008 ...
    citadel last message repeated 12 times
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:45 2008 ...
    citadel citadel: cdb_*: Berkeley DB panic: 22
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:45 2008 ...
    citadel citadel: cdb_*: Berkeley DB panic: -30977
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:45 2008 ...
    citadel last message repeated 12 times
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:45 2008 ...
    citadel citadel: cdb_*: Berkeley DB panic: 22
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:45 2008 ...
    citadel citadel: cdb_*: Berkeley DB panic: -30977
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:45 2008 ...
    citadel last message repeated 12 times
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:45 2008 ...
    citadel citadel: cdb_*: Berkeley DB panic: 22
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:45 2008 ...
    citadel citadel: cdb_*: Berkeley DB panic: -30977
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:45 2008 ...
    citadel last message repeated 12 times
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:45 2008 ...
    citadel citadel: cdb_*: Berkeley DB panic: 22
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:45 2008 ...
    citadel citadel: cdb_*: Berkeley DB panic: -30977
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:45 2008 ...
    citadel last message repeated 12 times
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:45 2008 ...
    citadel citadel: cdb_*: Berkeley DB panic: 22
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at M on Jun  2 11:12:45 2008 ...
    citadel citadel: cdb_*: Berkeley DB panic: -30977
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:45 2008 ...
    citadel last message repeated 12 times
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:45 2008 ...
    citadel citadel: cdb_*: Berkeley DB panic: 22
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:45 2008 ...
    citadel citadel: cdb_*: Berkeley DB panic: -30977
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:45 2008 ...
    citadel last message repeated 12 times
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:45 2008 ...
    citadel citadel: cdb_*: Berkeley DB panic: 22
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:45 2008 ...
    citadel citadel: cdb_*: Berkeley DB panic: -30977
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:45 2008 ...
    citadel last message repeated 12 times
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:45 2008 ...
    citadel citadel: cdb_*: Berkeley DB panic: 22
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:45 2008 ...
    citadel citadel: cdb_*: Berkeley DB panic: -30977
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:45 2008 ...
    citadel last message repeated 12 times
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:45 2008 ...
    citadel citadel: cdb_*: Berkeley DB panic: 22
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:45 2008 ...
    citadel citadel: cdb_*: Berkeley DB panic: -30977
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:45 2008 ...
    citadel last message repeated 12 times
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:45 2008 ...
    citadel citadel: cdb_*: Berkeley DB panic: 22
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:45 2008 ...
    citadel citadel: cdb_*: Berkeley DB panic: -30977
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:45 2008 ...
    citadel last message repeated 12 times
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:45 2008 ...
    citadel citadel: cdb_*: Berkeley DB panic: 22
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:45 2008 ...
    citadel citadel: cdb_*: Berkeley DB panic: -30977
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:46 2008 ...
    citadel last message repeated 12 times
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:46 2008 ...
    citadel citadel: cdb_*: Berkeley DB panic: 22
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:46 2008 ...
    citadel citadel: cdb_*: Berkeley DB panic: -30977
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:46 2008 ...
    citadel last message repeated 12 times
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:46 2008 ...
    citadel citadel: cdb_*: Berkeley DB panic: 22
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:46 2008 ...
    citadel citadel: cdb_*: Berkeley DB panic: -30977
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:46 2008 ...
    citadel last message repeated 12 times
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:46 2008 ...
    citadel citadel: cdb_*: Berkeley DB panic: 22
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:46 2008 ...
    citadel citadel: cdb_*: Berkeley DB panic: -30977
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:46 2008 ...
    citadel last message repeated 12 times
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:46 2008 ...
    citadel citadel: cdb_*: Berkeley DB panic: 22
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:46 2008 ...
    citadel citadel: cdb_*: Berkeley DB panic: -30977
    
    Message from syslogd@citadel at Mon Jun  2 11:12:46 2008 ...
    citadel last message repeated 7 times
    I rebooted, and had the same problem immediately. I could probably disable citadel using a rescue cd, purge it, then start fresh, but I'm not going to bother unless someone has some ideas to get filtering to work.

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    Re: Citadel sucks

    I think you need to upgrade to the latest version of Citadel. I've been using filters for several months, so I don't know how old your version is.

    The default install with Easy Install works perfectly good. The trouble with changing things is that you are then on your own with a unique system that is practically unmaintainable.

    If you used Easy Install, then upgrading is as simple as running it again. If you haven't used Easy Install, then you now know why you should.

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