k3b - video dvd - windows

[jeffunk]

ok, I have a solution that works for me. Downgrade.

Searching through the Debian bugs I came across this http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=430558
which looked promising so I downgraded to genisoimage 1.1.2-1

...and burned my disk and it works in windows, in my set top dvd player and in my laptop.

This doesn't quite identify the problem, but it does help work around it.
Cheers

Link to current bug in Debian http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=482032

[scorchedbysun]

There is another solution: upgrade

I just downloaded the 1.1.8 release of cdrkit from http://cdrkit.org/releases/ and compiled it. It installs into /usr/local and keeps the existing wodim etc. ver. 1.1.6 intact (I'm on Kubuntu 8.04). K3b saw the new versions of cdrkit programs and listed them as used by default.

Following this I successfully burned a DVD Video disc using K3b which is readable in Windows and everywhere else.

[bedege]

I just downloaded the 1.1.8 release of cdrkit from http://cdrkit.org/releases/ and compiled it. It installs into /usr/local and keeps the existing wodim etc. ver. 1.1.6 intact (I'm on Kubuntu 8.04). K3b saw the new versions of cdrkit programs and listed them as used by default.

Interesting ! What did you start from to create your video DVD ? Was it an exsiting iso file, and MPEG/VOB files that k3b had to digest ?
Reason that I'm asking is that for me it's apparently genisoimage 1.1.6 that is broken, so k3b is not to blame when burning an iso file.
As I mentionned earlier, I upgraded from genisoimage 1.1.6 (Shipped w/ Hardy) to 1.1.7.1 (using a Debian package) but it did not fix the issue. Have to try 1.1.8 though, from an existing Debian package for instance, instead of from the sources.

Cheers

[bedege]

Link to current bug in Debian http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=482032

Apparently, that Debian bug also identifies genisoimage 1.1.7.1 as being buggy...Bummer!
So, two possible solutions could be:
- downgrade to 1.1.2, for which an Ubuntu package exist
- upgrade to 1.1.8, which is now available in Debian repositories.
I'll have to try one of these.

It's revigorating to see that others suffer from the same bug, even if it does not get much attention from the Ubuntu developpers... What is the trick to raise the importance of that bug ?

Cheers

[scorchedbysun]

Interesting ! What did you start from to create your video DVD ? Was it an exsiting iso file, and MPEG/VOB files that k3b had to digest ?
Reason that I'm asking is that for me it's apparently genisoimage 1.1.6 that is broken, so k3b is not to blame when burning an iso file.
As I mentionned earlier, I upgraded from genisoimage 1.1.6 (Shipped w/ Hardy) to 1.1.7.1 (using a Debian package) but it did not fix the issue. Have to try 1.1.8 though, from an existing Debian package for instance, instead of from the sources.

Cheers

I just answered your post in another thread about this topic on this forum.

I haven't tried burning a pre-made ISO image, only a VIDEO_TS folder prepared by DeVeDE. On genisoimage, wodim, etc at 1.1.6 (what ships with Kubuntu 8.04) the DVDs would come out unreadable in Windows - exactly like described by others. But after compiling cdrkit 1.1.8 the DVD became immediately readable in Windows as well.

I would really recommend that you compile and install cdrkit from sources. It's very fast and doesn't break your exisiting versions of the apps. Also, it seems very probable to me that it's not just genisoimage, but the other apps in the cdrkit suite which need to be at newer versions.

[bedege]

I haven't tried burning a pre-made ISO image, only a VIDEO_TS folder prepared by DeVeDE. On genisoimage, wodim, etc at 1.1.6 (what ships with Kubuntu 8.04) the DVDs would come out unreadable in Windows - exactly like described by others. But after compiling cdrkit 1.1.8 the DVD became immediately readable in Windows as well.

My issue at the moment is creating an iso file (w/ k9copy/genisoimage) then burning it to a video DVD+R (w/ k3b/growisofs).

My gut feeling from bug reports floating around is that genisoimage is the culprit. Any idea what other cdrkit programs could be necessary/faulty in my case ?
Is there a way in k9copy to choose the backend software used, as you describe for k3b ?

[scorchedbysun]

My issue at the moment is creating an iso file (w/ k9copy/genisoimage) then burning it to a video DVD+R (w/ k3b/growisofs).

My gut feeling from bug reports floating around is that genisoimage is the culprit. Any idea what other cdrkit programs could be necessary/faulty in my case ?
Is there a way in k9copy to choose the backend software used, as you describe for k3b ?

I haven't really used k9copy, so I can't help you there.

BUT:
I have just burned an .iso prepared with DeVeDe BEFORE I installed cdrkit 1.1.8 (it also uses genisoimage, it seems) and it also doesn't show any files (on a Mac, now Windows, but the result is the same). So, recording in K3b using newer cdrkit version will not help an .iso made on cdrkit 1.1.6.

Later, I'll try making a new iso image with DeVeDe on the new cdrkit version and I'll tell you what happens.

[bedege]

I have just burned an .iso prepared with DeVeDe BEFORE I installed cdrkit 1.1.8 (it also uses genisoimage, it seems) and it also doesn't show any files (on a Mac, now Windows, but the result is the same). So, recording in K3b using newer cdrkit version will not help an .iso made on cdrkit 1.1.6.

So it leans toward using a different genisoimage (either 1.1.2 or 1.1.8, not 1.1.6 or 1.1.7.1)
Has one been able to differentiate between *good* and *bad* iso files using isoinfo or similar tool ?

[bedege]

Well, I just tried both solutions
- 1st, upgraded to genisoimage 1.1.8 (from the Debian package; too lasy to actually compile from sources... or more frankly not enough time!). Similar result as earlier: burned DVD unreadable by Windows. This is independent on the burning software/platform I use. The 1.1.8 created iso file is buggy, when I use k3b to burn it, or when I use nero under windows.
- 2nd, downgraded to genisoimage 1.1.2 from the Ubuntu repositories. Here, that WORKS !. Iso file generated with 1.1.2 gives correct AUDIO_TS and VIEDO_TS directories under windows, whatever soft I use to burn the DVD (k3b/linux or nero/windows). Then I can read the video with vlc under windows.

Huggs to jeffunk who proposed that workaround !

[jeffunk]

Glad that worked for you bedge.

As suggested early I went through my working iso and my not working iso with isoinfo to see if I could discover what the problem was.

The ONLY difference I found was this
in the Video DVD that works in Windows,Linux and Set Top DVD player
(genisoimage 1.1.2-1)
Application id: MKISOFS ISO 9660/HFS FILESYSTEM BUILDER & CDRECORD
CD-R/DVD CREATOR (C) 1993 E.YOUNGDALE (C) 1997 J.PEARSON/J.SCHILLING

in the Video DVD that doesn't work in Windows (genisoimage 1.1.8-1)
Application id: GENISOIMAGE ISO 9660/HFS FILESYSTEM CREATOR (C) 1993
E.YOUNGDALE (C) 1997-2006 J.PEARSON/J.SCHILLING (C) 2006-2007 CDRKIT
TEAM

Which I reckon for people who are creating the package is probably pretty well known. SO, I'm stuck as to what the difference is, and why 1.1.8 (1.1.6 or 1.1.7) doesn't work for me.