Offensive screenshots

[Wiebelhaus]

I would be offended if my children saw pictures of peoples heads being blown off by shot guns or pictures of murderous dictators smiling with blood on their hands , not of the beautiful human form.

[paks.dreamer]

I would be offended if my children saw pictures of peoples heads being blown off by shot guns or pictures of murderous dictators smiling with blood on their hands , not of the beautiful human form.

In some countries they train children to blow heads off and smile with blood on their hands. Good luck getting people here here to care about that either. Cause apparently they make up their own standards based on what they think and feel, and what other people might be doing in other countries, regardless of the TOS they signed up to or the clear finality of "keeping adult content away from children".

You guys are using the excuse "some countries are more liberal than ours" -- so where in your free & easy attitudes are you respecting the minors of countries that are less liberal, or your own country's children, or the other users here who have clearly expressed their discomfort?

And the original post wasn't worried about "the beautiful human form" -- they were worried about SEXUAL content, masturbation or suggestion of it, and lewd/crude adult comics, where even an adult felt uncomfortable or annoyed being confronted with it without a warning. You guys keep saying "naked" as if that's the problem. Sure, naked is natural. Sexual content for the eyes of children is not.

[k3lt01]

In some countries they train children to blow heads off and smile with blood on their hands. Good luck getting people here here to care about that either. Cause apparently they make up their own standards based on what they think and feel, and what other people might be doing in other countries, regardless of the TOS they signed up to or the clear finality of "keeping adult content away from children".

Was that aimed at me?

May I suggest you read the entire thread. I wont judge people based on my standards but I will discuss anything and everything within the bounds of what we are allowed to discuss.

You guys are using the excuse "some countries are more liberal than ours" -- so where in your free & easy attitudes are you respecting the minors of countries that are less liberal, or your own country's children, or the other users here who have clearly expressed their discomfort?

paks, aren't you being judgmental here?

Lets discuss your apparent penchant for quoting the TOS (called CoC "Code of Conduct" in the Ubuntu Forums) and quote parts of it myself for your benefit.

Posting to the Forums:

Section I - General Policy:

You agree not to post any abusive, obscene, vulgar, slanderous, hateful, threatening, sexually-orientated material or any other material that may violate any applicable laws. Doing any of these may lead to you being temporarily or permanently banned from these forums (and your service provider may also be informed).

Posts which violate any part of this Code of Conduct may be edited or moved to a special holding area called "The Jail." Posts in The Jail are only visible to staff members and the original poster.

The relevance of this is that both you and I have had posts edited but my post was edited because I quoted you, so please don't judge others for their points of view while you yourself have broken the TOS you so eloquently refer to often.

And the original post wasn't worried about "the beautiful human form" -- they were worried about SEXUAL content, masturbation or suggestion of it, and lewd/crude adult comics, where even an adult felt uncomfortable or annoyed being confronted with it without a warning. You guys keep saying "naked" as if that's the problem. Sure, naked is natural. Sexual content for the eyes of children is not.

Farting is natural to but most people turn their noses if someone else does it .

[Little Bit]

I'm not prudish when it comes to "the beautiful form" of the human body, but there are more appropriate places to celebrate that kind of beauty than in forums frequented by little kids. That is true no matter where you live.

Defending the "right" to post images that are inappropriate for kids without even the courtesy of a warning (sexual content, violence, whatever) is just inconsiderate and rude. It forces people to miss out on lots of good stuff in order to avoid the risk of having their kids exposed to objectionable content. They shouldn't have to.

The OP just made a simple request, hardly unreasonable. Maybe her request should be made to the Forum Management, to be added to the Code of Conduct to give it some "teeth."

Amy

[paks.dreamer]

Was that aimed at me?

No. If I wanted to "aim" or address someone specifically, I would have quoted. I'm reading the thread and responding, like others. tbh I hardly check the usernames in such a discussion, it's irrelevant unless I wanted to hold a personal feeling about it -- which I don't. I've looked at yours now, though. ~hi, thanks for catching my notice~

May I suggest you read the entire thread.

May I suggest you stop assuming. I read the thread over once, and other parts of the thread more than once. I found most of it was a waste of time, especially the personal banter posts that strayed off topic for the sake of being grating and opinionated towards others instead (like the one you just made me!). :] There are personal messages for such things -- you won't be saving face by including me in this, so please don't waste my time again. Honestly, even in my replying to this, I'm adding to the spam. People who want to read the worthwhile content in the thread will now have to scroll past this tripe. Good job.

paks, aren't you being judgmental here?

Yes I was; I thought that was obvious. I'll most likely continue to judge the sort of person who is careless around minors due to either making a statement against the people and its laws, or sheer personal laziness. Most who have posted on this thread are being judgmental, save the few who simply stated how they would go about things, instead of arguing with others and quoting them for the purpose of negating their point of view.

The relevance of this is that both you and I have had posts edited but my post was edited because I quoted you

I don't see how being "judgmental" is relevant to me having a post edited. Unless you meant "hypocritical" (by being offensive when I am posting against offensiveness), which has an entirely different meaning, but also suggests that you do, in fact, realise what the TOS is, yet are still happy for people to break it when they see fit.

The entire block of text which was snipped contained the sentence "you know what the --- law is".

The missing word being the expletive attributive:


"bloody"


Here, I gave the word its own paragraph so you don't have to cut my entire block of text again. How thoughtful of me. :]

Unnecessary use of the word, I agree. A very soft offense imo, compared to posting soft porn to children. Apparently people here can post **** and ***, but I can't say it. lawl. ;x

But if you're going to have a crack at me about "breaking TOS", at least know what you're doing it for. Snipping the entire paragraph may have been within the bounds of the moderator, but was also petty. The single word could have been removed to make a completely non-offensive statement. To make it clear, I'm an adult, and I happen to have an interest in protecting children where I see fit. I have my opinions, as you have yours. I have no problem saying this, or even being removed for it if anyone felt the "need" to do so. As I said, I'm here to learn and share about my operating system, and as a new user, certain attitudes here have already put me off -- que sera sera.

Just so you know, I won't be responding to this sort of post again. My previous input was on topic, not some pointless, personal back-and-forth between strangers like most of the content of this ~entire thread~ which was apparently so important for me to read.

[paks.dreamer]

I agree with Little Bit entirely.

Except Little Bit, it's already part of the TOS/Code of Conduct. Apparently the TOS holds no weight unless someone feels like it.

[k3lt01]

paks. if you have a gripe about moderation then deal with it. I personally think this place has its problems but all-in-all it runs smoothly.

As for all the "other stuff" you said, hmmmm. If my students behaved in that fashion they would be out of class till they learned how to behave in the way they are saying everyone else should. Yes, I deal with 5-18 year olds for a living.

Mods. feel free to delete any or all of this if you see fit.

[Swagman]

That is an amazing picture! Where did you get it? I doubt anyone would find it offensive since it doesn't appear to be a statement about Fawkes at all (the Thames has been drained, the parliament buildings are still largely intact and I'm pretty sure that's a car in the bottom right of the screen) but just a post-apocalyptic London cityscape.

I believe I got it from HERE

http://wall.alphacoders.com/wallpaper_categories.php