HowTo: Compiz Fusion in Hardy on cards with "ati"/"radeon" open source drivers

[Rocket2DMn]

Thank you for the enlightening feedback on page 5, RAOF, we all appreciate this very much!

Reason for this thread:
Older ATI cards have been blacklisted for Compiz Fusion because of a bug in the driver, but there is an easy workaround for many cards that use the open source ati drivers. Radeon 9500 are the oldest cards to support the restricted "fglrx" drivers, so everything older requires the open source drivers to function properly. A more technical explanation is offered in RAOF's post, linked above.

The appropriate method is as follows.
Open a terminal and run:

mkdir -p ~/.config/compiz/ && echo SKIP_CHECKS=yes >> ~/.config/compiz/compiz-manager

-> You may also need to install the Compiz settings manager program that you can access from System->Preferences->Advanced Desktop Effect Settings

sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager

You can now load Compiz Fusion and/or revert to Metacity (the basic window manager in Gnome) with the appropriate command:

compiz --replace &
metacity --replace &

I prefer making launchers in a panel for this, but it is not the only option.
-A program called "fusion-icon" is available in the repositories (accessed from Applications->System Tools->Compiz Fusion Icon).
-A simpler, cleaner, and equally effective tool is compiz-switch by Forlong. I suggest using the .deb installer file.

Remember that this is a workaround and may not work for everybody. As RAOF also mentioned, do not be terribly surprised if this doesn't work or is somewhat unstable. If you have further problems, you should consider running a forum search and then posting on one of the main support forums if you still need help.
For the record, my card is an ATI Mobility Radeon 9000.

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The original method suggested in this thread said to add SKIP_CHECKS="yes" to /usr/bin/compiz - while this works, it is not as solid as the updated method above (see RAOF's post).

To fix this, simply open the launcher with the gksudo gedit code above and place a "#" symbol in front of the SKIP_CHECKS="yes" line that we added, save and close.

#SKIP_CHECKS="yes"

Alternatively, you can delete the line, though I don't usually suggest deleting from files as a precautionary measure (like if you get overzealous or just confused).

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This guide also works on Intrepid Ibex Testing/Development release.

[say2sky]

I have the same ATI Mobility Radeon 9000 on my Dell laptop. Now I run as your HowTo and have following output, what is the possible problem? Thanks for your help and HowTo.

say2sky@hardy:~$ compiz --replace
Checking for Xgl: not present. 
Found laptop using ati driver. 
SKIP_CHECKS is yes, so continuing despite problems.
Checking for texture_from_pixmap: not present. 
Trying again with indirect rendering:
Checking for texture_from_pixmap: present. 
Checking for non power of two support: present. 
Checking for Composite extension: present. 
Comparing resolution (1024x768) to maximum 3D texture size (1024): Passed.
Checking for nVidia: not present. 
Checking for FBConfig: present. 
Checking for Xgl: not present. 
Starting gtk-window-decorator
Fontconfig warning: no <cachedir> elements found. Check configuration.
Fontconfig warning: adding <cachedir>/var/cache/fontconfig</cachedir>
Fontconfig warning: adding <cachedir>~/.fontconfig</cachedir>
GConf backend: There is an unsupported value at path /apps/compiz/plugins/scale/allscreens/options/initiate_edge. Settings from this path won't be read. Try to remove that value so that operation can continue properly.
Fontconfig warning: no <cachedir> elements found. Check configuration.
Fontconfig warning: adding <cachedir>/var/cache/fontconfig</cachedir>
Fontconfig warning: adding <cachedir>~/.fontconfig</cachedir>

[Rocket2DMn]

I'm not sure what those font problems are, but I don't think it is an issue, it seems like it may have created the correct stuff for you. For the rest of the output, I got the same thing, I think this is just normal terminal output.
You should be able to use CF now. You can setup 4 workspaces by right clicking the workspace switcher applet in the bottom panel and hitting Preferences. 4 workspaces is typical, though it started me with only 2. You can then enable the cube and other desktop effects using compizconfig-settings-manager - note that it will prompt you to disable Desktop Wall if you enabled the Desktop Cube.

Again, I suggest making launchers in your panels to enable/disable compiz so you can avoid having to run these commands in terminal every time you want to change.
Right click the Panel area and hit Add to Panel, choose Custom Application Launcher and add the compiz/metacity commands from there.

[say2sky]

I'm not sure what those font problems are, but I don't think it is an issue, it seems like it may have created the correct stuff for you. For the rest of the output, I got the same thing, I think this is just normal terminal output.
You should be able to use CF now. You can setup 4 workspaces by right clicking the workspace switcher applet in the bottom panel and hitting Preferences. 4 workspaces is typical, though it started me with only 2. You can then enable the cube and other desktop effects using compizconfig-settings-manager - note that it will prompt you to disable Desktop Wall if you enabled the Desktop Cube.

Again, I suggest making launchers in your panels to enable/disable compiz so you can avoid having to run these commands in terminal every time you want to change.
Right click the Panel area and hit Add to Panel, choose Custom Application Launcher and add the compiz/metacity commands from there.

Thanks a lot for your help and now it works. I have set 4 workspaces and use Ctrl+Alt+arrow key to switch the 3D show. I am wonder if there is a way to show 3D with 6 faces and have other way to control the 3D cube rotating?

[vexorian]

hmnn Now that ATI got OS drivers I think I will move from nvidia this year when I get my new Desktop on Christmas time

[Rocket2DMn]

Thanks a lot for your help and now it works. I have set 4 workspaces and use Ctrl+Alt+arrow key to switch the 3D show. I am wonder if there is a way to show 3D with 6 faces and have other way to control the 3D cube rotating?

Using the settings manager you can control keyboard shortcuts for the cube and other functions. I think the cube works for any number of faces, it just isn't a cube at that point.

hmnn Now that ATI got OS drivers I think I will move from nvidia this year when I get my new Desktop on Christmas time

ATI has had OS drivers for a long time, that is what older ATI cards have to use. The proprietary fglrx drivers are suggested for the newer ATI cards. Long story short, you will be using proprietary drivers on newer nvidia or ati cards, but they tend to work OK. The OS ati drivers are nothing to be proud of, they just keep those of us with older cards in the game.

[arunthegr8]

I'm not sure what those font problems are, but I don't think it is an issue, it seems like it may have created the correct stuff for you. For the rest of the output, I got the same thing, I think this is just normal terminal output.
You should be able to use CF now. You can setup 4 workspaces by right clicking the workspace switcher applet in the bottom panel and hitting Preferences. 4 workspaces is typical, though it started me with only 2. You can then enable the cube and other desktop effects using compizconfig-settings-manager - note that it will prompt you to disable Desktop Wall if you enabled the Desktop Cube.

Again, I suggest making launchers in your panels to enable/disable compiz so you can avoid having to run these commands in terminal every time you want to change.
Right click the Panel area and hit Add to Panel, choose Custom Application Launcher and add the compiz/metacity commands from there.

Mine still doesnt work. it just keeps logging off even if i change the settings to normal. in compiz fusion icon window manager is selected as compiz but still it doesnt work. i have an ati x200 onboard gpu.

I dont have the default drivers but have installed a driver with filename <ati-driver-installer-8.42.3-x86.x86_64.run>.

Will uninstalling it work? How do i do it. I m stlii new to linux.

[Rocket2DMn]

Mine still doesnt work. it just keeps logging off even if i change the settings to normal. in compiz fusion icon window manager is selected as compiz but still it doesnt work. i have an ati x200 onboard gpu.

I dont have the default drivers but have installed a driver with filename <ati-driver-installer-8.42.3-x86.x86_64.run>.

Will uninstalling it work? How do i do it. I m stlii new to linux.

Hi,
Those drivers that you installed from the .run file are restricted fglrx drivers, not the open source ones which this thread is geared toward. I suggest removing the drivers you installed with that .run file (it may have an option in the installer, or you may be able to do like "ati-driver-installer-8.42.3-x86.x86_64.run --uninstall" in terminal. If your card uses restricted drivers, you should try enabling them from System->Administration->Hardware Drivers. Alternatively, you can use EnvyNG to automatically detect which drivers you should use and have it install them for you - http://www.albertomilone.com/envyngfaq.html#A
Otherwise, you need to start a new thread to get support for using restricted drivers.
Good luck!

[drkjstr]

Had to do a clean instally of Hardy (for other reasons) and did the setup form the first post, and it worked like a charm. Thanks!

[neyuru]

Thanks for the workaround. I entered the command compiz --replace and got this:

yorcho@yorcho-laptop:~$ gksudo gedit /usr/bin/compiz
yorcho@yorcho-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Couldn't find package compizconfig-settings-manager
yorcho@yorcho-laptop:~$ compiz --replace
Checking for Xgl: not present.
Found laptop using ati driver.
SKIP_CHECKS is yes, so continuing despite problems.
Checking for texture_from_pixmap: not present.
Trying again with indirect rendering:
Checking for texture_from_pixmap: present.
Checking for non power of two support: present.
Checking for Composite extension: present.
Comparing resolution (1024x768) to maximum 3D texture size (1024): Passed.
Checking for nVidia: not present.
Checking for FBConfig: present.
Checking for Xgl: not present.
GConf backend: There is an unsupported value at path /apps/compiz/plugins/scale/allscreens/options/initiate_edge. Settings from this path won't be read. Try to remove that value so that operation can continue properly.

What does this mean? How can I quit the terminal?