Ubuntu? No more.

[RedSquirrel]

what?security issues on arch is fixed slow?

That was the case with mplayer. It took them three weeks to fix the problem after the bug report was filed.

http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=332405


With regard to security, you might want to browse the Arch forums, for example:

Arch approach to security
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=332180


I've been using Debian (mainly sid) exclusively for about two weeks now ("business card" iso, only the base system + Openbox and a few other goodies). It seems just as light or lighter than Arch to me.

Configuring it is different from Arch (no rc.conf!), but I have a reasonable knowledge of its guts so it's not a problem for me. Mind you, after using Arch for a few months I find myself typing "pacman" instead of "aptitude" every once in a while.

[deepclutch]

well!I am just a week old to archlinux.for the past 6-7 yrs am on Debian and for the past 3 yrs on Debian Sid,which I had installed via network-install iso.

I am very much satisfied with Debian Sid apt-pinned with experimental and testing repos

even my siggy can be helpful

[raul_]

Has anyone spoke of the AUR?

[ST.x]

I'd have to agree. I thought aptitude was cool until I started using pacman. There's no contest.

QFT, + yaourt <3

[raul_]

IMHO the AUR owns checkinstall although checkinstall is easier to use than making a PKGBUILD

[finferflu]

Not that easier. If you manage to get to the checkinstall command you can surely write a PKGBUILD. The only difference in writing a PKGBUILD is making sure you use fakeroot'ed directories.

[herbster]

Arch rocks! Been using it a while now and pacman is the bomb. Arch is really great for one who wishes to further knowledge of their system/linux in general as it really requires you to know what the hell you're doing much moreso than with Ubuntu.

And yes, AUR is very neat, as is ABS. A very, very user-friendly, fast, simple system for building packages and finding practically anything you need to install.

I probably like this community more than Arch's, however, as the snobbery and holier-than-thou-ness many of them give off to anyone who uses/used Ubuntu is incomprehensibly lame. I mean, it's a computer at the end of the day, yeesh.

[aeto]

Whatever works, ja?

Anyway, a buildscript can be anything with the correct variables. Anything other than something called PKGBUILD can be specified via makepkg.conf or at runtime with option -p.

pkgname=monkey
pkgver=1
pkgrel=1
arch=(i686)
source=(http://animals.china.billgates/monkey.tar.mz)

build() {
cd $srcdir/$pkgname-$pkgver

mkdir -p $pkgdir/home/pidstew/monkey
cp -r * $pkgdir/home/pidstew/monkey/
}

And then

makepkg -g >> thescript && makepkg -icp thescript

should take care of your checkinstall habit. Seriously, that was just less than 30 secs.

[johnnybirdman]

Uh-oh....I think I might have caught the Arch bug. Decided to try it out on my laptop today, and I think that the experience can be summed up in 3 words. Sweet! Merciful! Crap! Bootup and shutdown is wicked fast, compiz runs amazingly, etc. When I get a little bit of free time, and after I work out a few minor things like suspend/hibernations, I might just switch over completely.

I'm looking to try this out on a laptop as well. What, if any, guides did you use for install.
If installing ubuntu is a 1 (on a 1 to 10 scale of hardness), where would you put Arch?
Thanks for any info.
J.

[herbster]

I'm looking to try this out on a laptop as well. What, if any, guides did you use for install.
If installing ubuntu is a 1 (on a 1 to 10 scale of hardness), where would you put Arch?
Thanks for any info.
J.

http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners_Guide

Put it this way: With Ubuntu, you install the system and many of the main parts of an everyday user's needs are there (evolution, firefox, etc.-- hell, even compiz). You install Arch and you are booting into a terminal, basically. You'll have to install the X server, gnome, window managers, firefox, etc. yourself. This is not to comment on the difficulty, as the installation of these packages are a breeze, but to say that you get a very, very barebones system whereby you yourself then choose exactly what you want.