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    Linux Based FOSS EPOS

    Hi all. I have been trying to find a ready to roll Linux based ePos system for my company. Having completed a 6 month evaluation of a Linux conversion for our business, I am in the process of managing the first "real" phase of the deployment.

    This will switch an initial 15 PC's to Ubuntu (Linux) and a further 2 servers. We are forced into keeping 2 Windows 2003 SBS servers as 5+ years worth of sales & business data is there, for now.

    The rest of the business will be moved over the coming months, however, as part of the evaluation, a requirement for an ePos system that could link into our existing systems and/or work independently was highlighted. To date, the evaluation team have been unable to find anything to match our needs.

    So, I turn to you guys. If anyone knows of any FOSS ePos system, please feel free to fire suggestions here. No matter how many or how old they may be. If I can generate a long enough list, I should be able to weed out those that are unsuitable quite quickly.

    Many thanks in advance!
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    Re: Linux Based FOSS EPOS

    hi
    i was out for an epos as well , there used to be a site by linuxpos.org i think but definately was linuxpos ,not there any more but some really useful links articles etc u could try archives.

    the things i have left by mailing
    I,ve been looking at open source epos solutions and came across
    following articles,quite intersting read
    http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS3049201509.html
    http://www.ericom.com/story_allders.asp
    http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS2736912506.html
    http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS3219242716.html
    http://www.open-mag.com/features/Vol...key/monkey.htm
    http://www.linux-pos.org/index.php?o...tpage&Itemid=1
    http://www.open-mag.com/features/Vol...S/mercator.htm
    http://www.linuxbusinessweek.com/story/39193.htm?DE=1
    http://www.ensight.org/archives/2004/01/08/linux-pos/
    http://blogs.linux.ie/xeer/2003/07/30/linux-pos/
    http://www.capterra.com/point-of-sale-software
    http://www.novell.com/collateral/4613412/4613412.html
    http://www.discountpos.com/viewtouch.htm


    regarding epos solutions i tried to locate pizza pos but could,nt find
    the link, the open source solutions there is a Free POS Software /
    Free Cash Register Program(proffittcenter) by dale harris what do u
    think about that and can it be ported to linux also there is a Barcode
    Writer in Pure Postscript by terry burton
    ? do u think about turbocash ,gshop,gnupos and tuxshop
    I,m new to this field and do need some expert advice so sorry for all the hassle

    all the links i,ve got for open source solutions
    http://www.terryburton.co.uk/barcodewriter/ (Barcode Writer in Pure
    Postscript)
    http://pages.prodigy.net/daleharris/pos.htm (Free POS Software /
    Free Cash Register Program.)
    http://english.hk.yahoo.com/Business...Point_of_Sale/
    http://www.newslave.co.uk/downloads.htm
    http://www.proffittcenter.homecall.co.uk/Help/
    www.bananapos.com
    http://sourceforge.net/projects/redpos/
    http://freshmeat.net/projects/nofusspos/
    http://freshmeat.net/projects/ntpv/
    http://freshmeat.net/projects/redpos/
    http://freshmeat.net/projects/tinapos/
    http://freshmeat.net/projects/tkkasse/
    http://freshmeat.net/projects/fisterra/
    http://freshmeat.net/projects/inhunmi/
    http://freshmeat.net/projects/freemercator/
    http://freshmeat.net/projects/ck-ledger/
    http://freshmeat.net/projects/vt/
    http://freshmeat.net/projects/tuxshop/
    http://freshmeat.net/projects/ck-erp/
    http://freshmeat.net/projects/quickorder/
    http://www.javapos.com/
    http://sarovar.org/projects/openpos/
    http://l-ane.net/
    http://nola.noguska.com/gpage.html
    http://www.compiere.org/
    http://gshop.sourceforge.net/
    http://www.linux-pos.org/index.php?o...tpage&Itemid=1
    http://auto-auction.sourceforge.net/
    http://www.turbocashuk.com/Accountin...ware-help.html
    http://www.discountpos.com/viewtouch.htm
    http://sourceforge.net/projects/gnupos/
    http://paginas.ccm.itesm.mx/~00924689/postre.html
    http://mozpos.sourceforge.net/

    http://www.linuxcanada.com/ ( Quasar Accounting 1.4.3 Available
    in Open Source)
    http://www.lynuxworks.com/products/b...-linux-pos.php


    http://www.lynuxworks.com/
    http://www.viewtouch.com/
    also
    http://www.carltoncollins.com/pos/pos1.html (Comprehensive Listing
    of All Known Point of Sale Solutions)
    http://english.hk.yahoo.com/Business...Point_of_Sale/

    ? do u think about bluecat-linux-pos
    is there a newsgroup about epos on linux or a forum ,can we start a
    thread on liux pakistan???

    some open source epos links
    http://www.carltoncollins.com/pos/pos1.html (Comprehensive Listing
    of All Known Point of Sale Solutions)
    http://www.terryburton.co.uk/barcodewriter/ (Barcode Writer in Pure
    Postscript)
    http://pages.prodigy.net/daleharris/pos.htm (Free POS Software /
    Free Cash Register Program.)
    http://english.hk.yahoo.com/Business...Point_of_Sale/
    http://www.newslave.co.uk/downloads.htm
    http://www.proffittcenter.homecall.co.uk/Help/
    www.bananapos.com
    http://sourceforge.net/projects/redpos/
    http://freshmeat.net/projects/nofusspos/
    http://freshmeat.net/projects/ntpv/
    http://freshmeat.net/projects/redpos/
    http://freshmeat.net/projects/tinapos/
    http://freshmeat.net/projects/tkkasse/
    http://freshmeat.net/projects/fisterra/
    http://freshmeat.net/projects/inhunmi/
    http://freshmeat.net/projects/freemercator/
    http://freshmeat.net/projects/ck-ledger/
    http://freshmeat.net/projects/vt/
    http://freshmeat.net/projects/tuxshop/
    http://freshmeat.net/projects/ck-erp/
    http://freshmeat.net/projects/quickorder/
    http://www.javapos.com/
    http://sarovar.org/projects/openpos/
    http://l-ane.net/
    http://nola.noguska.com/gpage.html
    http://www.compiere.org/
    http://gshop.sourceforge.net/
    http://www.linux-pos.org/index.php?o...tpage&Itemid=1
    http://auto-auction.sourceforge.net/
    http://www.turbocashuk.com/Accountin...ware-help.html
    http://www.discountpos.com/viewtouch.htm
    http://sourceforge.net/projects/gnupos/
    http://paginas.ccm.itesm.mx/~00924689/postre.html
    http://mozpos.sourceforge.net/

    http://www.linuxcanada.com/ ( Quasar Accounting 1.4.3 Available
    in Open Source)
    http://www.lynuxworks.com/products/b...-linux-pos.php

    sometimes u need to look at what the competitors got and get ideas that u might be able to implement in ur own epos or get someone to do it for u
    windoz epos links
    http://www.multipos.com.ar/ (Multi
    Pos for Restaurant 3.01)
    http://www.tucows.com/preview/353844.html (Retail Man POS 1.50.821)
    http://www.tucows.com/preview/341566.html (Retail Plus Lite POS
    Software 1.0)
    http://www.tucows.com/preview/335346.html (ezPower POS (Point
    of Sale) 8.0)
    http://www.tucows.com/preview/343806.html (Retail Plus POS Software 2.0)
    http://www.tucows.com/preview/319559.html (4POS Retail 62.00)
    http://www.tucows.com/preview/220716.html (MainRetail 2.0)
    http://www.tucows.com/preview/195265.html (PowerTerm InterConnect 6.6.2)
    http://www.tucows.com/preview/351253.html (Volutive 1.1.0)
    http://www.tucows.com/preview/290985.html (Winrental 398.00)
    http://www.tucows.com/preview/260596.html (Retail Boss POS
    (Point of Sale) 9.9c)http://www.retailbosspos.com/
    http://www.ccrsystems.co.uk/epos_office.htm
    http://www.accpac.com/products/epos/
    http://www.opensys.com.hk/openpos.htm
    http://www.r-kidz.co.uk/software/
    http://www.comcash.com/
    http://www.capterra.com/point-of-sale-software

    news
    http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS3049201509.html
    http://www.ericom.com/story_allders.asp
    http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS2736912506.html
    http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS3219242716.html
    http://www.open-mag.com/features/Vol...key/monkey.htm
    http://www.linux-pos.org/index.php?o...tpage&Itemid=1
    http://www.open-mag.com/features/Vol...S/mercator.htm
    http://www.linuxbusinessweek.com/story/39193.htm?DE=1
    http://www.ensight.org/archives/2004/01/08/linux-pos/
    http://blogs.linux.ie/xeer/2003/07/30/linux-pos/
    http://www.capterra.com/point-of-sale-software
    http://www.novell.com/collateral/4613412/4613412.html

    Here is a list of most of the proprietary software packages I checked
    out. I will not rank them because it depends on price. A good value
    one was http://www.fbsaust.com.au but it was still well over AU$40,000
    for our business. But some of these were AU$100 - 200,000 for an SME
    like us.

    Arel Retail http://www.arelretail.com
    2Clix http://www.dnmcomputers.com.au/2clix/2clixframeset.htm
    Acumen http://www.acumensystems.com.au
    AdvanceRetail http://www.advanceretail.com
    AMC http://www.amc.com.au
    Counter Intelligence http://www.kudos.net.au
    Creative Computing http://www.creativecomputing.com.au
    Enigma Solutions http://www.esol.com.au
    Fujitsu http://au.fujitsu.com/FAL/CDA/Articl...29,379,00.html
    Futura http://www.futura4retail.com
    Future Business Solutions http://www.fbsaust.com.au
    JDA Software http://www.e3corp.com
    Merlin http://www.kendle.com.au
    Micro Solutions http://www.micro-solutions.com.au
    Microsoft http://www.microsoft.com/BusinessSol...t/default.mspx
    MYOB http://www.myob.com.au/products/retailmanager
    POSPerfect http://www.posperfect.com
    Pronto Software http://www.pronto.com.au
    RetailWorks http://www.pacsoft.net
    Retek http://www.retek.com
    SmallBiz http://www.smallbiz.net.au
    Surefire http://www.surefire.com.au
    Sym-Pac http://www.sympac.com.au/FS_SOLUTIONS.HTM
    System 77 http://www.system77.com.au
    Technology One http://www.techone.com.au
    Thomson Data Corp http://www.thomsondatacorporation.com
    Univex http://www.univex.com
    Whitech http://www.whitechsolutions.com

    Open source you would know:
    Compiere www.compiere.org
    Banana www.bananapos.com

    Plus a few more but they were not seriously considered.

    If you want more, just ask.

    about ideas for epos
    One solution is Gazelle, from GNU Solutions in the UK.

    Gazelle was one of the first POS Linux platforms out there and has an
    installed user base with customers such as Budgens and Krispy Kreme.
    Its developed and sold by GNU Solutions and its partner PCMS.

    PCMS btw. has standardised on Gazelle for its Beanstore product -
    which is interesting since PCMS have also done work with IBM on IRES
    in the past.

    Gazelle differs from IRES in a number of ways.

    First its a dual layer OS. It consists of a small Linux distro about
    16MB in size that provides device driver, setup, integrety checking,
    install, SSH, web and autoconfiguration components.

    It always runs and can do so from a disk bootstrap, CDROM or network.
    Thus if your disk crashes, or the system gets corrupt, it will always
    run and allow you to log into the system and find out what went wrong
    and implement a manual or automatic fix.

    Since it runs in a ramdisk, its also imune from hacking and deliberate
    modifications, since the next time you reboot, the changes made
    disapear.

    This service layer then starts your application in a run time
    environment, that is a complete POS Linux distribution that can
    provide all the services required for Java, X and database.

    Key libraries are checksummed at build time and if these libraries are
    modified, then the system will refuse to run - allowing a greater
    level of trojan and card collection hacking protection.

    Gazelle, unlike IRES is designed from the ground up to be a POS
    opperating system and thus its smaller and more reliable. IRES is
    based on a Server product and has a number of wrappers applied to it
    during build that tweak the OS to work in a POS environment. Since
    IRES is based on SUSE Linux, IBM may not have complete control of the
    distribution, Gazelle on the other hand is a complete source neutral
    product and thus we have complete control over how its build, what
    goes into it and how it works. This allows us a greater level of
    flexibility and control that can be reflected in delivering what the
    customer needs, not what the vendor thinks is required.

    Also, because we are not a Vendor solution, we can also run on many
    different POS platforms including Wincor, PCPOS, HP and fujitsu as
    well as IBM hardware - thus as a customer, you are not tied into a
    vendors hardware platform, allowing you to take advantages of a more
    competetive pricing landscape.

    If you want more information on Gazelle, please feel free to drop us a
    line, or visit the web site at www.gnu-solutions.com

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    epos ideas
    I want to make a point-of-sale Portal site that will enable any store
    to securly give in stock, make sales, inventory and even orders and
    transfers to other stores of his allowed group. There is a very large
    request around this here in uk, but I guess also worldwide
    because I didn't find it anywhere!
    This website will need a very, very large database or be able to start
    another databases for each new loged-in (and paid) customer. There is
    a lot to earn even asking very low prices!

    An Example:
    - Surfing the web I find this interesting online point-of-sale site.
    I just need to log in and I can start selling my products, for 1 free
    month.

    After that I can pay a small amount that represents the sales I make
    (maybe 0.1% or just 1 penny for each product sold) or with a
    bank-deposit done a few days before with a special referance (there
    are a lot of countries that don't have that much creditcards in use)

    - Then I go to "sales" I type in the product name or barcode(could use
    a keyboard switched barcode-reader) Because it ain't in stock, the
    program asks for the name, price and amount in stock and updates the
    stock.
    The received money has been entered, ticket printed on standard
    printer and I've made my first sale with it!!!

    - Then some day I read in the hole stock entering the price and
    product names for each not already existing read barcode. And now I
    have all the products in my online database!!! I can even upload a
    ASCII or Excel file lay out just the way the website askes it.

    - Inventory with placing a 20 meters cable between the barcode-reader
    and keyboard-switch. Using a barcode-card for entering the amount of 1
    product before the product is being scanned. The PC gives sounds or
    even speaks for what is happening. So there is only 1 input field that
    automaticly sees if it is an instruction, barcode or amount. So I've
    got now my entier stock online!!!

    - I can go to logs and have sales charts and statistics.

    - I can download all my data(stock,sales,transfers,...) in a textfile
    or excel sheet.

    -I can add other stores that can have a look in my stock and make/ask
    transfers and orders.

    -I can add logins with passes for employees.

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    Re: Linux Based FOSS EPOS

    Over the past few years, Retail Systems Reseller and other industry
    magazines have tended to support proprietary solutions, whether they
    were constructed in-house or built on top of Microsoft operating
    systems. The best explanation for their support is that older
    solutions tended to be in-house proprietary or built on top of a small
    real-time kernel. This situation was necessary, because a lot of
    functionality had to be crammed into a slow CPU with limited RAM.

    As inexpensive CPUs became faster and RAM became larger, purchasing
    more software became cost-effective, because there now was space and
    speed to run less optimal solutions. In return, device drivers no
    longer had to be written for many common peripherals. The downside, of
    course, is the OS now had to be treated as a black box; previously, it
    was code that could be viewed and modified as needed.

    Some vendors, IBM being one example, recognized the advantage of
    building point-of-sale systems based on Linux. Device drivers were
    included with these systems, and the source code was accessible.
    Unfortunately, industry trade magazines didn't seem get it.

    Now, however, things are starting to change. The September Products to
    Watch section of Retail Systems Reseller contains two examples. First,
    the LC6000 Industrial Computer, by Logic Controls, is described as
    follows, "The LC6000 is based on an Intel-compatible x86 processor, so
    it can run many Windows and Linux-based applications." Assuming this
    statement isn't marketing hype, this is positive because this system
    is completely solid-state, including the flash disk. In other words,
    Logic isn't saying you only can boot your Linux CD here.

    Although less dramatic, the second example is the Flex POS by Touch
    Dynamic. The description reads, "The unit ships with an internal
    floppy and an optional 3.5" hard drive with any operating system." The
    choice of the word any is a little strange, but it certainly sounds
    like Touch Dynamic has noticed choices are available.
    Getting into This Market

    Seeing this new Microsoft-free approach in a magazine like Retail
    Systems Reseller made me think about business opportunities for Linux
    in this market. Although writing a complete POS system is possible,
    doing so is a huge project. Besides that, some of these systems
    already exist. So, what other possibilities are there? Scanning the
    magazine further provided some inspiration.

    The first idea comes from an ad for Ithaca printers. No mention of
    Linux is made, but the ad is for wireless receipt printers--they speak
    802.11b. Some POS systems likely exist (in a restaurant, for example)
    with an assortment of wired printers that don't really address the
    needs of the business but with hardware that cannot support more
    printers or wireless printers. How about a Linux box with an 802.11b
    card that plugs into the POS printer port and does some intelligent
    printer traffic routing? You may not get rich off this system, but you
    probably could get your and Linux's foot in the door for a future
    conversion.

    I continue scanning the magazine's pages, and I see an article titled
    "The Government Plays Market-Maker". First, the author discusses how
    retailers are dragging their feet on full-scale POS replacement
    because of the soft market, but then explains that some add-ons are
    being required because of government legislation. The most common
    piece of legislation is that many states require stores to provide a
    customer-accessible device that scans barcodes and displays product
    prices. This stipulation is made so stores can avoid individual
    product price labels. Providing this device, of course, requires a
    system that can access the price database of the current POS system.
    It seems Linux is game for that task. So, why not a Linux-based unit
    that allows customers to look up prices? While you're at it, be
    creative and have it display ads when not showing prices or even offer
    a coupon system.

    Finally, I read an article titled "Post-Modern Scanning Draws VARs"
    that essentially is about the need for new scanning devices to handle
    2-D barcodes. Shipping companies, such as UPS, are using them, and
    they also are appearing on drivers' licenses. These barcodes require
    newer software, as well as more CPU power, to be decoded than do
    traditional barcodes.

    So, if you feel you have written enough computer games and want to see
    if you can make some money with Linux, I hope I have provided you with
    some ideas for projects. In each case, what you do now could be the
    ticket for getting Linux in the door in preparation for the next major
    POS upgrade.

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    Re: Linux Based FOSS EPOS

    BEL SBX 1-4 Final
    belsbx1-4final.iso = BEL Server-Basic 1-4 Xfce Final

    BEL SBX is a Small Business server based on PCLInuxOS 2007, but using a modified Xfce interface to make a lighter, faster GUI experience for those who come from another server background ( like maybe Windows Server) or perhaps are visually oriented people, finding their way around the OS/system better when they can "see" things. It takes all kinds of users and we aim to please as many of them as possible.

    BEL SBX can be run easily with this light, fast and resource easy GUI or it can be run just as easily without any GUI at all, saving on the resources the x window systems uses natively. Either way, SBX users will have a small business server that can perform with the best of them.
    http://pclosbe.org/mwiki/index.php?t...ver-Basic_Xfce
    http://pclosbe.org/phpbb/index.php

    http://linuxtracker.org/download.php...al.iso.torrent

    Keldix Linux
    Keldix is a Linux distribution primarily for the Small business Office and Home Office (SOHO) market. Keldix is a live-dvd built on PCLinuxOS.

    Keldix has the following features:

    * Danish translations
    * Skype
    * shorewall firewall automatically activated
    * automatic setting of syncronized time
    * login by password or ssh passphrase
    * dr.dk TV is working
    http://keldix.com/

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    Re: Linux Based FOSS EPOS

    hi.
    sorry if the above looks a bit mismatched , thats all i could gather,do have a look at IS4C by co ops
    more about that here
    http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/08/322550.shtml

    http://wilsonsalmanac.blogspot.com/2...t-of-sale.html

    http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/06/13/0116212
    http://www.roseindia.net/opensource/...urce-pos.shtml
    http://www.durhamfoodcoop.org/pos
    http://www.linux.com/articles/56598
    http://www.cooperativegrocer.coop/ar...dex.php?id=588

    http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m..._7/ai_77024948
    http://www.robertpeake.com/index.php...-With-PHP.html


    http://www.openden.com/viewprod.php?...399511378&set=
    http://www.openden.com/point-of-sale.php
    http://www.openden.com/business-software.php
    http://www.openden.com/index.php

    the one i liked was dhpos or dale harris pos its dos based but not open source , though it does depend on your need, what u intend it for , plz do let us know how u get on and oh sorry forgott to mention
    http://www.aegislinux.com/
    the forums down at the moment but did have a healthy discussion there and loads of links
    also if u find any useful links etc keep us posted

    thankss
    Last edited by kamrananvaar; March 21st, 2008 at 10:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kamrananvaar View Post
    hi.
    sorry if the above looks a bit mismatched , thats all i could gather
    thankss
    You shouldn't have to apologise. You've done more than enough
    Is this for enhancing your E-peen?

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    Re: Linux Based FOSS EPOS

    http://www.paul-boggia.me.uk/LinuxDistros.htm

    What is HospitalityMachine?

    HospitalityMachine is a self-booting 'Live CD' containing a complete and modern desktop operating system and suite of applications. It is targeted towards owners and managers of bars, pubs, clubs, cafes, etc.
    http://www.hospitalitymachine.co.uk/

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    kamrananvaar thanks so much. I come back from 4 days away and see THIS lot. Seriously, you have done a great deal of work there and I imagine I will have about 3 months worth of reading there
    One of the aims of my project is to release us from the constraints placed upon us by our current ERP solution provider and to support a good EPOS project.
    Last edited by fatality_uk; March 24th, 2008 at 09:07 PM.
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