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    Re: Ubuntu Science Metapackage

    Quote Originally Posted by ssam
    i asked the forum guys if we could have a forum page, but have had no response.
    That would be cool. There are quite a few scientists or wannabe scientists (a.k.a. engineers ) on here. A separate forum section would be nice. A combination of topics like this and random chat topics--for instance I'd be interested in hearing about research projects others are working on, if they want to present them.

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    Re: Ubuntu Science Metapackage

    Quote Originally Posted by ssam
    a metapackage may be more trouble than its worth. i dont really want to install loads of statistical and bioinformatic stuff just to get latex and octave. maybe a set of metapackages

    ubuntu-scientists-maths
    ubuntu-scientists-chem

    etc
    A set of metapackages is probably better in many cases. It would require people from various specialities saying what packages they would like in their meta-package.

    So if you know what packages you would like for your speciality go to you can put them on the wiki page UbuntuScienceMetaPackages

    On the other hand it might be useful for people who want to set up a number of ubuntu wokstations which may be used by many different people with different needs to have a larger meta-package. Something like an ubuntu verion of quantian. Besides interdisciplinary research is very fashionable and a sure fire way to improve your funding prospects.

    .......

    on a lighter note a tautological song about "scientific fact"

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    Re: Ubuntu Science Metapackage

    Just for fun I made a mega-meta package which contains packages common to ubuntu-hoary and quantian.

    It just took some a bit of "sed" and "comm" - a lot easier than making something from scratch.

    Then i removed the packages that conflicted with ubuntu-desktop (and a few games) and we have ubuntu-quantian (deb package and source attached below).

    It also installs kubuntu since quantian is based on a kde-desktop.

    Its just an experiment (in progress) and I'm posting it here for people who may want to play around too.

    As people have suggested, I think its a better idea to make some specialised packages for various disciplines but it was just easier to steal some of the work done to make quantian.

    It will install a very large number of packages and in fact I haven't had the guts to install it on my own computer since there is a good chance
    it will serious break things.
    It will probably install far more packages than you could ever want. I'll try it out when i get my hands on a machine that I don't mind breaking to test it out.

    If anyone has the some free time, guts and a system to play around with let me know how it turns out.

    Don't complain to me if this package does something nasty to your computer.
    Attached Files Attached Files

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    Re: Ubuntu Science Metapackage

    Hi all!
    I just wanted to throw in my $0.05 (inflation ). I think that it would be difficult to add science meta packages. For one, we would probably need to make several meta packages (meta-science-math, meta-science-physics, meta-science-chemistry, meta-science-biology, meta-science-statistics, etc.) and we would have to "decide" what packages to include in both. I think a better direction would be to work more on the UbuntuScientists wiki page and provide a simple one line "apt-get" command that would install what most users would want for each discipline. That way, it is a simple, one-line copy & paste but the users can also tailor it by adding what they want without being locked into specific packages (like with a meta-package). Its not "all or nothing".
    I think that good documentation would alleviate a lot of the need for these meta packages.

    -LaserJock (JordanMantha)

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    Re: Ubuntu Science Metapackage

    good idea! better result with less work

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    Re: Ubuntu Science Metapackage

    Quote Originally Posted by LaserJock
    .... we would probably need to make several meta packages (meta-science-math, meta-science-physics, meta-science-chemistry, meta-science-biology, meta-science-statistics, etc.) and we would have to "decide" what packages to include in both. I think a better direction would be to work more on the UbuntuScientists wiki page and provide a simple one line "apt-get" command that would install what most users would want for each discipline. That way, it is a simple, one-line copy & paste but the users can also tailor it by adding what they want without being locked into specific packages (like with a meta-package). Its not "all or nothing".
    I agree that getting a good list of packages is the most important part.

    I did some editing of the page
    Ubuntu Science Metapackages
    to suggest that people can use "apt-get" and cut and paste packages. This is probably a convenient method for many people.

    Everyone - please add/edit this page as you see fit.

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    Re: Ubuntu Science Metapackage

    It turns out there are already some science metapackages in Ubuntu - from Debian-Med for doctors and medical researchers.

    to list the meta-packages type
    Code:
    apt-cache search debian-med

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    Re: Ubuntu Science Metapackage

    Quote Originally Posted by ssam View Post
    please add any science related infomation to the Ubuntu Scientists wiki page.
    [...]
    Hello, Sam.

    That page does not exist!

    I've added a link to Bio-Linux 5.0 at:

    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuScience/Biology

    Bye,

    Tony.

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    Re: Ubuntu Science Metapackage

    hi.
    this thread is quite old. the page has now moved to
    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuScience

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    Re: Ubuntu Science Metapackage

    Hello, Sam.

    Thanks for replying to my post on the Ubuntu Education and Science
    Forum: I notice that you are a PPC fan

    I've got an iLamp with 8.10 on it - Have you any experience of using
    QtNX under Ubuntu for the PPC?

    Bye,

    Tony.

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