View Poll Results: Should a native Linux Emulator be developed?

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Thread: A suggestion for all Linux distributions!

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    Hi,



    Since there are a LOT of Linux distributions each using different type of environments and settings like some Gnome some KDE, some are Debian based and some are based on other and many other differences between them it is not very easy and beneficial for Software and Game developers to create native Linux software and Games due to the lack of a single platform. Having a single platform is the advantage Windows has and therefore it is easy and comfortable for developers for creating Software and Games for Windows only. I would like to suggest all Linux distributions to get together and remove this hurdle in order to pave way for developers to create software and games for Linux too. For this I would suggest them to create a single native Linux Emulator which could run on any Linux distribution and run native Linux software and games. It should also be easier for the community to run the native Linux software and games on that Emulator. If that is made possible it would really be a boon for the entire Linux community for it would provide a single platform to Linux and developers would seriously consider to create software and games for Linux too. For LInux and its future it would be a far better option than Wine or Cedega the presently available emulators which only run Windows software and games giving further boost to the idea of developing just native Windows software and games to the developers.

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    Re: A suggestion for all Linux distributions!

    My suggestion is to be apt-based. It's just sensible to me. And easy for the user.

    EDIT: I meant this as just a suggestion for Linux distros in general. But about your idea: why exactly an emulator? if it can already run Linux apps, why does it need to pretend to run linux apps (with the exception of a virtual test environment)
    Last edited by DeadSuperHero; October 22nd, 2007 at 10:53 PM.

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    Re: A suggestion for all Linux distributions!

    I think you are just slightly missing the point of emulators. Emulators are designed to allow software from one operating system to be run on a completely different one. When you say "Native Linux Emulator", it's basically an oxymoron: if an application is native to an operating system, then no emulator is required to run it! Under the hood, virtually all Linux distributions are the same...the major difference among them all is really in the package management system. What would be a better idea is the development of system-agnostic packages (like autopackage) that would remove the hurdle of designing packages for X different distributions.

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    Re: A suggestion for all Linux distributions!

    Quote Originally Posted by Martial-law View Post
    Hi,



    Since there are a LOT of Linux distributions each using different type of environments and settings like some Gnome some KDE, some are Debian based and some are based on other and many other differences between them it is not very easy and beneficial for Software and Game developers to create native Linux software and Games due to the lack of a single platform. Having a single platform is the advantage Windows has and therefore it is easy and comfortable for developers for creating Software and Games for Windows only. I would like to suggest all Linux distributions to get together and remove this hurdle in order to pave way for developers to create software and games for Linux too. For this I would suggest them to create a single native Linux Emulator which could run on any Linux distribution and run native Linux software and games. It should also be easier for the community to run the native Linux software and games on that Emulator. If that is made possible it would really be a boon for the entire Linux community for it would provide a single platform to Linux and developers would seriously consider to create software and games for Linux too. For LInux and its future it would be a far better option than Wine or Cedega the presently available emulators which only run Windows software and games giving further boost to the idea of developing just native Windows software and games to the developers.
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    Re: A suggestion for all Linux distributions!

    I think a standardized ABI would be easier.

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    Re: A suggestion for all Linux distributions!

    Well you don't even have to use GTK or QT if you dont want to use that "desktop integrations" in fact few games do.

    As for installation and all, im sure many distros would be willing to work with closed source developers to create binaries for all different managers. By "working with" id mean "Yes we will give you permission so you to do all the work and create a distro specific installer for our game"

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    Re: A suggestion for all Linux distributions!

    Not an emulator but a way to make QT apps and GTK apps work and look properly on the other DE with out it's libs installed.

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    Re: A suggestion for all Linux distributions!

    That would be nice but, it's like running an emulator of an OS on the native OS. Also, could you please use paragraphs, that's hard to read

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    Re: A suggestion for all Linux distributions!

    Quote Originally Posted by Martial-law View Post
    it is not very easy and beneficial for Software and Game developers to create native Linux software and Games due to the lack of a single platform.
    There are differences between distributions but all software should work just fine.

    Quote Originally Posted by Martial-law View Post
    I would like to suggest all Linux distributions to get together and remove this hurdle in order to pave way for developers to create software and games for Linux too.
    We have that. It's called the Linux Standards Base.

    Quote Originally Posted by Martial-law View Post
    For this I would suggest them to create a single native Linux Emulator which could run on any Linux distribution and run native Linux software and games.
    An emulator is used to run software on other platforms. This topic can become confusing though because there is a lot of terminology and only slight differences between them. An emulator translates the actual CPU calls into different ones. Virtualization is the abstraction of hardware which makes the software think that it is running on its own machine. The CPU calls are not translated, they are already native. This just separates the computers resources so that it can run multiple operating systems.

    Quote Originally Posted by Martial-law View Post
    For LInux and its future it would be a far better option than Wine or Cedega the presently available emulators which only run Windows software
    If I were a WINE developer I would slap you silly. Be thankful I'm not. WINE is an acronym which stands for "Wine Is Not an Emulator". WINE is actually just a port of the Windows API to Linux. Cedega is the same thing.

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    Re: A suggestion for all Linux distributions!

    Sorry to sound a little blunt here, but I really don't think you understand the basics of the linux operating system. Basically, all of the current distros can run linux software, because they are all linux.

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