well, i created a bad upgrade for myself on my desktop. (you know, the kind of scary for a new user thing, which i am not, so i only get annoyed) for instance, seeing something downloading and saying "when did i ever install that?" is probably a bad sign. recommendation to others: dont let your system get messy. having to run several things repeatedly just to get every package to configure is not fun.

my laptop, OTOH, with a fairly standard xubuntu 7.04 install from several months ago, was a clean and easy upgrade.