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  1. #141
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    Re: Operating systems for really, really old computers

    I think what he meant is that old versions of Linux distros shouldn't be used, which is true.
    The kernel itself is fine (DSL uses 2.4, DeLi uses 2.4, BasicLinux uses 2.2) so long as updates and stuff are provided by the distro.
    2010 IBM Thinkpad 510, 4GB RAM, i5-540M, NVS 3100M

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    Re: Operating systems for really, really old computers

    Debian!
    Code:
    lenny:/home/luser# ./ps_mem.py
     Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used       Program
    
     76.0 KiB +  34.0 KiB = 110.0 KiB       getty
     88.0 KiB +  24.0 KiB = 112.0 KiB       klogd
    128.0 KiB +  33.0 KiB = 161.0 KiB       syslogd
    148.0 KiB +  56.0 KiB = 204.0 KiB       init
    180.0 KiB +  62.0 KiB = 242.0 KiB       cron
    152.0 KiB + 108.0 KiB = 260.0 KiB       xinit
    252.0 KiB + 104.5 KiB = 356.5 KiB       su
    324.0 KiB +  33.0 KiB = 357.0 KiB       udevd
    332.0 KiB + 148.0 KiB = 480.0 KiB       login
    408.0 KiB + 130.0 KiB = 538.0 KiB       sh
    440.0 KiB + 145.0 KiB = 585.0 KiB       startx
    608.0 KiB + 305.0 KiB = 913.0 KiB       mrxvt-mini
    900.0 KiB +  75.0 KiB = 975.0 KiB       nmbd
      1.1 MiB + 908.0 KiB =   2.0 MiB       smbd (2)
      3.3 MiB + 447.5 KiB =   3.7 MiB       icewm
      5.3 MiB + 206.5 KiB =   5.5 MiB       Xorg
      7.4 MiB + 687.0 KiB =   8.0 MiB       bash (3)
    ---------------------------------
                             24.4 MiB
    =================================
    
     Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used       Program
    Last edited by basenvironment; July 2nd, 2008 at 06:26 AM.

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    Re: Operating systems for really, really old computers

    I think it is fine to use and old distro as long as your expectations are realistic. If you want to download and burn DVD's and view you-tube videos then you probably won't be happy with an older distro, or an older computer for that matter.

    I work in an environmental lab and have to submit reports to the state quarterly for all our monitoring points. These are plain Ascii files in a .CSV format, and they have to be mailed in on a floppy disk. I use Ubuntu 6.06 on an Imac in my office, so I don't have a floppy drive. I found an old 486 w/12megs of ram underneath a cabinet in the back of the lab. I cleaned it up, put a different hard drive in it and I use it for all the stuff I send to the state.

    I installed basic Linux 3.50 on it from 2 floppy disks. It does have a working cd-rom drive, but since bl-3 came on floppy disks that is what I used. I use VI for my editing, and some of the command line tools like grep and cut. Then I save to floppy disk. This computer ended up being so useful that I put it on the network and use it to store some backup files on as well. It is connected to the Internet and could be used for browsing (using links) and email. Installing BL3 also taught me more about the "internals" of how a linux system works as well, so that was an added bonus.

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    Re: MiniLinux

    Great list of light distros... eLive is one I'm giving serious thought to as I'm looking to get a used laptop in the coming week. One of the possibilities is a PPC-drive iBook -- but it might also be fun on a Sony Vaio I'm checking out. But then I guess I have a soft spot for Enlightenment (ah, those long gone Mandrake 7 days...)

    Philip David
    (who had some of his best penguin
    years because of Mandrake -
    clearly an everything plus the
    kitchen sink package)
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    http://my.opera.com/konstelacio/blog/

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    Re: Operating systems for really, really old computers

    Should I add some well-known custom Windows builds like 55Mb TinyXP?

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    Re: Operating systems for really, really old computers

    Quote Originally Posted by darrelljon View Post
    Should I add some well-known custom Windows builds like 55Mb TinyXP?
    Those are questionably legal, so probably not.
    2010 IBM Thinkpad 510, 4GB RAM, i5-540M, NVS 3100M

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    Re: Operating systems for really, really old computers

    I just wrote this blog. Hope it helps someone.
    http://hubpages.com/hub/How-to-turn-...-For-free?done
    Acer Aspire 3680, Intel Celeron M, 1.41 GB RAM
    Feel free to message me if you have any questions.

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    Re: Operating systems for really, really old computers

    Quote Originally Posted by basenvironment View Post
    Debian!
    I support this recommendation after installing Debian Lenny on Pentium MMX 200 MHz 32 MB RAM. I used Beta2 netinstall CD. The installer went into Low Memory mode and loaded minimum installer components and asked to add additional components I wanted. I did not add anything. This resulted into failure of Network Card Detection. I bypassed the Network Configuration. The installer contacts NTP server after Network configuration. When it could not contact NTP server it simply asked whether hardware clock was set to UTC or not and proceeded to install the base system. The installer automatically selected the 486 Kernel image. At select and install software stage (after Base Install) I unchecked every thing and the base installation was finished.

    After booting I configured the network by editing /etc/network/interfaces file and started the network. I updated and upgraded the system through apt-get (including Kernel 2.6.24 to 2.6.25) and could reboot into the new Kernel.

    I added xorg and icewm and edited xorg.conf to configure the serial mouse, added Modeline, PreferredMode in Monitor Section, Default depth, depth and Mode to use in screen section. I made .xnitrc to boot into IceWM and used startx to get into IceWM.

    The result on IceWM:
    Code:
    $ free -m
    	Total	used	free
    Mem:	28	26	2
    -/+ buffers/cache11	17
    Swap	243	1	243
    
    $ ps aux | wc -l
    31
    I have reduced the tty terminal processes by commenting getty lines in /etc/inittab file.
    I added Kazehakase web browser. It gives performance similar to Firefox 1.5 on old DSL.

    kagashe
    Last edited by kagashe; July 29th, 2008 at 04:47 AM.
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    Re: Operating systems for really, really old computers

    DSL Install Video

    How to install Damn Small Linux using Terminal (Bash)

    If anyone needs to install Damn Small Linux. There is a excellent video on You Tube. Just follow the instructions in the video. Everything is done from the command line and you can install DSL under 10 minutes.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhP17LPOCOU
    Your TV might soon be obsolete...find out at https://www.dtv2009.gov/
    Close the Windows and "open" the "source" . 2008 is the year for Linux

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    Re: Operating systems for really, really old computers

    Can someone help me? I have a old laptop (Acer Travel Mate 210T)
    Intel Celeron 700mhz
    64mb RAM
    8mb SHARED graphics
    10gb Hard Drive
    Cd-Drive
    Floppy Drive

    What OS can i put on it besides DSL for simple operation like playing music and movies?
    DSL confuses me...
    I am new in Linux waters and i dont have much experience...
    And my english sucks,sorry....
    Last edited by maliomladinac; August 10th, 2008 at 08:08 PM.

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