Over the last day the has been a situation that I have done my best to see resolved. As it is now I am being threated with an infraction if I use the words lies or fud. As I understand it, those words are common, and are not against the rules.
FUD = Fear Uncertainty and Doubt, or using the 3 to influence someone into doing something. I do not like it when new users are given FUD. IMHO it is telling them a lie.
Background - I was in the 64bit section answering posts. I opened this thread. and answered it. Later a member of the new users team came in and posted fud.
The original poster did not ask what version they should run, they had come to the 64bit section and was interested in information about wubi. Me and a few others suggested that if they wanted to test Ubuntu that they might try a livecd.
A member of the new users team then posted fud on the topic. I asked madmetal to "Please do not come into the 64bit section spreading the "you should use the 32bit version" fud." trying to be nice, I even asked please. When he continued , I noticed he was a member of the beginners team so I went and asked that team, hoping for its leader to answer, if this was going to be the common practice of that team when dealing with new users. IMHO Spreading FUD to a new user should be against the COC.
Rather than say the FUD shouldn't have happened the focus of the discussion was focused me. How I am to heavy handed and that use of FUD and asking about a problem were against the COC according to bodhi.zazen. In fact he threatened me with the COC. .Which I pointed out to him does not say what he was suggesting. That I did what I thought the COC recommends.
When I asked him to look at it again and provide me with links to policy he said I was ranting.
Well bodhi.zazen in the end outlawed the use of the words lie and fud without dealing with the fact the whole thread was full of FUD.
The thread was closed, and since I started the thread I received notice from bodhi.zazen that it was locked. I wrote a pm back saying this.
At which point bodhi.zazen took it as a chance to threaten me.Originally Posted by Kilz
I personally dont see the use of the words lies or FUD as insults, bodhi.zazen is threatening an infraction and admitting he is being heavy handed.Originally Posted by bodhi.zazen
Is this the kind of person we want dealing with new users? One that threatens community members for use of the words FUD and lies?
Is he afraid that his team will spread FUD and lies and wants to stop the truth if they do?
Is this the attitude we want to put forth to new users , that if you speak a little different, not swearing or attacking, but if you dont have a fake smile in your voice we will attack you? We will say the COC says something it doesn't and make up new rules on the fly to outlaw common terms? Come on, the word FUD?
My history speaks for itself. I hate lies and untruth. Its sin. I cant just let it happen to anyone, but especially to new users. Neither should anyone else. This is the people we have selected to meet new users? This is the person who is going to give the first impression?
So, do I now have to stop using the word fud and lie? If I do what words is bodhi.zazen going to outlaw next?