Eyecandy Galore and desktop acceleration 1 month from now ?

[NoTiG]

Im not sure if you all have heard but there has been a recent prerelease of xorg and one imporant feature mentioned :

New EXA acceleration architecture, with experimental support in sis(4) (more to come)

which confirms other news posted here about exa , and how its planned to be released at the end of september with xorg.

Some relevant quotes you might find interesting here

4) Following the 7 steps I outlined above will speed up the common
desktop usage by quite a bit. Note that you don't have to be a driver
developer to switch any of those drivers. Note that this also means
that we can easily give the useless, but oh-so-wanted transparent
windows to everyone right now. Not next year, not when library X will
be ready - now, as in today.
5) Implementing the download/upload/composite hooks will give us enough
power to have very fancy effects that will let us compete with
Microsoft/Apple desktops while we work on Xgl.

and one other important tidbit:

Its not dependent on any toolkit, not like Evas which is part of a toolkit. It's in the Xserver and not specific to Qt.

This is all of course, temporary for when xgl and glitz are ready.

[jasmuz]

Wohooo!!! that sounds great to me!!!!

[Kyral]

I don't think it will make it into Breezy.

IIRC the code has been frozen....but I may be wrong and I would love to be proved wrong on this one

[NoTiG]

I don't think it will make it into Breezy.

IIRC the code has been frozen....but I may be wrong and I would love to be proved wrong on this one

from the ubuntu wiki:

Feature Freeze date for the Breezy release is 11 august 2005.

I dont think it will make it either considering that breezy is to be released in october and xorg is not released till the end of september. They wont have enough time to test it and everything, but we will be able to upgrade to it hopefully

[benplaut]

from the ubuntu wiki:

I dont think it will make it either considering that breezy is to be released in october and xorg is not released till the end of september. They wont have enough time to test it and everything, but we will be able to upgrade to it hopefully

feature freeze is then. package freeze has already happened...


BTW- what's the name of the version after breezy?

[Knome_fan]

AFAIK the newest X will make it into breezy. So exa will be available to the extend it is available in the X release in September.

[Burgundavia]

From the mouth of our X guy:
<daniels> Burgundavia: the server hasn't been moved over to the modular kit yet, hence no exa. that'll happen sometime this month.

And further info:

<Burgundavia> daniels, the other question that I know will come up on the forums is binary drivers. Will those break with modular?
<daniels> Burgundavia: nvidia no, ati yes
...
<daniels> Burgundavia: iirc ati haven't yet released a fglrx that works with the libdl-based loader
<daniels> (aka 'dlloader')

Corey

[poofyhairguy]

<daniels> Burgundavia: nvidia no, ati yes

My nvidia card just paid for itself.

[NoTiG]

Do the open source mesa driver that can be used with ATI support hardware acceleration at all? will you be able to use them with exa instead??

Why is it that ATI drivers are so bad anyway? Opengl is an open specification... shouldn't the implementation be almost identical on windows as it is on linux ?? Why are they so badly optomized? Something maybe farfetched would be to wonder if ATI and microsoft are in league together. After all they are partnered on the xbox 360.

[poofyhairguy]

Do the open source mesa driver that can be used with ATI support hardware acceleration at all? will you be able to use them with exa instead??

Why is it that ATI drivers are so bad anyway? Opengl is an open specification... shouldn't the implementation be almost identical on windows as it is on linux ?? Why are they so badly optomized? Something maybe farfetched would be to wonder if ATI and microsoft are in league together. After all they are partnered on the xbox 360.

The biggest thing they profit off of are highend cards for workstations and consoles. Highend graphics cards are nice but the volume is low, a lot of money is made in the lowend segment. Thats what most people want. Thats Intel's game.

Blender and Mesa.

Reasons to buy those graphics cards. But only one can survive in that market: Nvidia did it first. May Ati will get in more. I bet. Then Linux graphics would kick ass. Much better than most other parts.