What is the lamest reason for giving up on Ubuntu/Linux you've ever heard?

[LuisAugusto]

You are mistaken.It's Beryl,that's dead.C-F,AFAIK is still being actively developed.

No, Beryl merged with CF. And CF is dying. I quote myself

Links to the discussion:

http://lists.freedesktop.org/archive...er/003236.html

http://lists.freedesktop.org/archive...er/003238.html

Very sad news. Seems like KDE devs did the right thing when they decided to improve KWIN instead of relying on Compiz.

Now, lets quote a developer:

To finish, let me end with a quote from an Linux user that really sums
up our situation quite clearly:

"Dramatically ugly, unusable, slow, badly animated and unconsistent.
Open source development without a serious, expert mantainers can
result in chaotic grouth of the project and waste of human resources
into pointless code. The Compiz-Fusion project is certainly the most
representative example of all this"

[zerothis]

I've worked on computers for churches and pastors have some real bizarre things to say. Comments in parentheses are what I didn't say when I held my tongue.

Apple is open source.
(pluh?)

[A pastor wanted all the leaders to email reports in Word or Powerpoint format] Everyone has Powerpoint and Office, it comes with new computers.
(Should the fixed income and homeless leaders your church buy new computers?)

It needs to reboot to Windows or Ubuntu when I need one or the other without my having to select it.
(Sorry, *I* can't arrange for G-d to answer all your computer usages prayers you'll have to do that yourself)[double meaning intended]

I don't want to reboot.
(****!) [Turns out he wanted me to come over whenever a reboot was needed or occurred spontaneously, 24/7. So *he* wasn't gonna purposefully reboot anyway]

I'll buy Linux if it costs more
(Some of your members told me they'd tithe if you weren't the pastor)

I need to protect my flock
(From virus free reliable computing?)

I want it to work without my knowing anything about it
(So you don't want to know that one of your members is currently running a porn site on your server?)

Just use my CD-Rs of Windows and Office [Some variation of this is by far the most common excuse]
(Neither shall thieves inherit the kingdom of G-d)

Bill Gates is in charge of computers. G-d chooses leaders, so G-d wants me to use Windows.
(G-d hasn't put *you* in charge of *Your* computer?)

The church should always choose the easiest option.
(So Jesus followers building an illegal church under Nero after He was scourged, had his beard torn out, had thorns jammed into his brain, and was nailed to a cross, was easiest option?)

No one buys it, it must not be good.
(The cross really *has* made a fool out of you)

[meindian523]

LuisAugusto

Nothing in those mails told me that C-F is not being developed anymore,or that it's on the way there.What they told me was they have some organisational problems to sort out.

[Tomatz]

To finish, let me end with a quote from an Linux user that really sums
up our situation quite clearly:

"Dramatically ugly, unusable, slow, badly animated and unconsistent.
Open source development without a serious, expert mantainers can
result in chaotic grouth of the project and waste of human resources
into pointless code. The Compiz-Fusion project is certainly the most
representative example of all this

Very sad news. Seems like KDE devs did the right thing when they decided to improve KWIN instead of relying on Compiz.

And kwin is more stable... Yeah ok (note sarcasm)

Kwin is crud!

I find compiz very stable and i use the git version. I think that statement is complete trash! As for compiz being dead, that's trash too. Even if its core developers died in a plane crash, there is so much interest in compiz that others would continue the project.

antifud!

[LuisAugusto]

And kwin is more stable... Yeah ok (note sarcasm)


Kwin is crud!

Yes, it is, and it has good WM features aside of Composite, and it supports XRender, which Compiz doesn't, and you don't need 2 WM to cover the needs of users since it can run without Composite.

I find compiz very stable and i use the git version. I think that statement is complete trash! As for compiz being dead, that's trash too. Even if its core developers died in a plane crash, there is so much interest in compiz that others would continue the project.

antifud!

Yeah sure, I mean, they have (as today) 2 real developers and just 4 users that more or less help. Even the developer has commented here (as in Ubuntuforums) that Compiz is dying.

Not to mention, that the dev himself said that Compiz is pointless code XD.

Compiz was never meant to be the future, that's why Kwin Composite exists, as well as Metacity (this one is less mature).

[Tomatz]

This:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1046437

Ohh i cant install libdvdcss2 because i am too lazy

[Shippou]

"Yucky interface."

[Tomatz]

Yes, it is, and it has good WM features aside of Composite, and it supports XRender, which Compiz doesn't, and you don't need 2 WM to cover the needs of users since it can run without Composite.

Kwin is buggy cumbersome and if you wasn't to go down the functionality of window management route, a clone of compiz-fusion. No more or less useful (buggyness aside). Although its good it supports xrender.

Yeah sure, I mean, they have (as today) 2 real developers and just 4 users that more or less help. Even the developer has commented here (as in Ubuntuforums) that Compiz is dying.

Compiz has just under 20 (official) devs...

Not to mention, that the dev himself said that Compiz is pointless code XD.

Well that's all user perception. Someone using wmii may think metacity is pointless when most functions can be done with the keyboard.

Compiz was never meant to be the future, that's why Kwin Composite exists.

Well if kde4 is the future, Linux is dead

[Envergure]

"I keep clicking 'shut down' instead of closing the window!"
Learn to use a mouse dude.

[Namtabmai]

This:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1046437

Ohh i cant install libdvdcss2 because i am too lazy

I want it as window like as possible. I would really like to get rid of vista.

That's not a lame reasons for giving up Linux, that's a lame reason for trying Linux.