View Poll Results: What does "ready for the desktop" mean to you?

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  • Any person can install it on any computer without any problems

    1,609 34.95%
  • Anyone can use it once it's already been installed and configured

    2,414 52.43%
  • Every commercial application works on it

    453 9.84%
  • Nothing--it's a nonsensical term

    704 15.29%
  • It automatically detects most hardware without the need to hunt down drivers

    2,236 48.57%
  • It comes preinstalled on computers so novice users don't have to install it

    889 19.31%
  • It's suitable to the needs of most beginner users but not necessarily to most intermediate ones

    568 12.34%
  • Windows and nothing else... not even Mac OS X

    46 1.00%
  • Works on my desktop

    1,199 26.04%
  • Other (please explain)

    166 3.61%
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Thread: Linux Desktop Readiness Thread

  1. #1511
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    Re: Impressions of Linux and why the software disappoints me

    Quote Originally Posted by WalterDirt
    Let's say you install some program from a questionable source, that program has a call back home, I'm a big proponent of privacy, and I don't want that call back to occur.
    If I don't trust the source, I don't install the program. You're thinking of Linux in terms of Windows, which is a mistake.
    My sole duty is to my own happiness and well-being. I recognize no other.

  2. #1512
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    Re: Impressions of Linux and why the software disappoints me

    Quote Originally Posted by DrFunkenstein
    as I said, Mandriva ships with an application firewall.
    Just curious, which one are they shipping?
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  3. #1513
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    Re: Impressions of Linux and why the software disappoints me

    Quote Originally Posted by WalterDirt
    And don't tell me in Linux that doesn't happen since if there isn't a program that can tell me that info how do you know it doesn't?
    What prevents this scenario.

    # You download and install a questionable package foobar
    # You regularly use SSH, so the SSH binary is allowed to connect out
    # foobar opens a connection to the outside using SSH (shell command).

    On windows, do you let your appl. firewall trust IE? What about applications that use IE to access the net?
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    Re: Impressions of Linux and why the software disappoints me

    Quote Originally Posted by nocturn
    Just curious, which one are they shipping?
    Sorry, no idea what it's called. I think it's something mandriva themselves developed.

  5. #1515
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    Re: Impressions of Linux and why the software disappoints me

    Quote Originally Posted by nocturn
    On windows, do you let your appl. firewall trust IE? What about applications that use IE to access the net?
    Personaly I dont, IE is a POS that should die, but afaik applications that use IE call it through a DLL linked in so the application level firewall would still prompt for access despite IE itself having access. I think thats the case anyway.

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    Re: Impressions of Linux and why the software disappoints me

    Quote Originally Posted by DrFunkenstein
    Sorry, no idea what it's called. I think it's something mandriva themselves developed.
    Where did you find this information?
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  7. #1517
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    Re: Impressions of Linux and why the software disappoints me

    Quote Originally Posted by nocturn
    Where did you find this information?
    Reading some reviews, I guess.

  8. #1518
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    Re: Impressions of Linux and why the software disappoints me

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.X
    If you dont like the software, program it yourself.
    Can I ask you one thing? If you find the train service in your country inefficient, do you have the right to say "I don't like the service"?
    And if somebody replies to that with "start your own train company", what would you think?

    Not everybody has the time/knowledge/will to program, but still everybody has the right to complain, especially when it is done in a polite, useful way.

    That sounds like such an obvious and basic rule to me that I'm always surprised by replies like that.

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    Re: Impressions of Linux and why the software disappoints me

    Quote Originally Posted by megamania
    Can I ask you one thing? If you find the train service in your country inefficient, do you have the right to say "I don't like the service"?
    And if somebody replies to that with "start your own train company", what would you think?

    Not everybody has the time/knowledge/will to program, but still everybody has the right to complain, especially when it is done in a polite, useful way.

    That sounds like such an obvious and basic rule to me that I'm always surprised by replies like that.
    You are right. And if people have constructive critism of projects and file bugreports, that is off great value for the future of the project!
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  10. #1520
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    Re: Impressions of Linux and why the software disappoints me

    Quote Originally Posted by megamania
    Can I ask you one thing? If you find the train service in your country inefficient, do you have the right to say "I don't like the service"?
    And if somebody replies to that with "start your own train company", what would you think?

    Not everybody has the time/knowledge/will to program, but still everybody has the right to complain, especially when it is done in a polite, useful way.

    That sounds like such an obvious and basic rule to me that I'm always surprised by replies like that.
    your analogy is flawed. I prefer to think of free software like this:

    A man, who loves to eat apples, plants an apple tree in the public square, and encourages his neighbours to take apples from it to eat.

    His neighbours come, and pluck apples from the tree, and eat. Some like them.

    One neighbour, though, went to the man to complain. The apples, said the neighbour, are too sour.

    "Don't you like apples?" responded the tree planter.

    "Yes. But not these apples," said the neighbour.

    "Well," said the tree planter, "There are the seeds--go away and grow your own apple trees."

    "But it would take so much time," complained the neighbour. "And I don't know the first thing about apple trees!"

    "Then don't eat my apples," said the tree-planter.

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