Fedora Core 5 Goals

[Xian]

A package managing program only has as much potential as the repo it fetchs from in my opinion....

As I installed FC4 on day1 I only had the default fedora-extras enabled.
I would assume the other "regulars" are now set-up.

The process to get from update > installed in yum is lengthy.
Run the same command structure in apt and the time difference is notable.

[jdong]

Agree. Still _very_ slow in FC4. But has much potential.

It's not that bad. Considering that yum performs an "apt-get update" equivalent for every operation, it's not that bad at all. Especially in FC4 where sqllite is used, it's very acceptable.


As far as the number of packages available, that's not really yum's fault... The devs simply can't support that many packages given their release cycle. It's much more fair to compare Ubuntu's 'main' with Fedora+Extras.

As far as general availability of prepackaged software... Fedora/RedHat wins. Far more 3rd parties give RPMs of their software than any other format.

[Xian]

It's not that bad. Considering that yum performs an "apt-get update" equivalent for every operation, it's not that bad at all. Especially in FC4 where sqllite is used, it's very acceptable.

Oh, it's not "bad" by any means. If I'd never tried or gotten familiar with Apt then I would be none the wiser. Apt is just a faster and more responsive tool at this point. Of course, anything is possible and in a year who knows...

As far as general availability of prepackaged software... Fedora/RedHat wins. Far more 3rd parties give RPMs of their software than any other format.

Are you talking in terms of available titles? I'm not sure about this as Debian-based Apt seems to include many more, especially when you add in all of Apt's unoffical repos. Not that it is any big deal. When I used Fedora I enjoyed it immensely and found basically any application that I ever needed. How ever many titles they do have it certainly far exceeded anything that I required. It's a great distribution.

[jdong]

It's kind of a funny topic: the speed of APT. Since APT is written in C and Yum in Python, sure, APT has a speed advantage there, LOL.

However, Yum has been so optimized and tweaked that the difference is basically unnoticeable, especially in FC4 with the sqlite database backend.

However, the RPM system is much faster than dpkg... there's no doubt about that. Install a single package. RPM will do it in less than half the time than dpkg... ("Reading Database......" sound familiar? )

So in the end, the speed basically balances out.

[Lovechild]

It's not like you access yum or apt-get on a daily basis (unless you like me are running the development branches and update daily). I don't see the marginal speed difference as a big selling point, however the fact that yum downloads rpm headers for each file rather than a large repo file is a big thing for me since that sometimes takes forever.