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    HOWTO Ubuntu mini ram

    I found this guide little outdated. So I will try to write my own. My interpretation of formmer howto.

    0.1 AUTOMATE SCRIPT

    I made a automate script for this howto. Script is based on Automate Script for New Users

    1. Installing everything
    1.1 Hoary
    I imagine that you have Hoary CD already in your CD unit. Reboot computer and when installation screen shows, write server and then press <return>

    Go through whole installation process. And when you find yourself in console login and then write

    Code:
    $ wget http://ahacic.5gigs.com/miniram.sh
    Code:
    $ sudo sh miniram.sh
    When whole proces is done you have all programs listed in this howto installed.

    1.2 Breezy

    Code:
    $ wget http://ahacic.5gigs.com/miniram-breezy.sh
    Code:
    $ sudo sh miniram-breezy.sh
    Warning

    Breezy automate script doesnt install w32codecs! You can install them with enabling marillat repositories which are in my sources.list which you downloaded with automate script. When you removed # at line with marillat. Type

    Code:
    $ sudo apt-get update
    Code:
    $ sudo apt-get install w32codecs
    After that you can remove marillat repostiories from sources.list
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    0.2 MANUAL INSTALLATION

    If yoo want to install without script this is how you do it

    1. Install WM

    I imagine that you have Hoary CD already in your CD unit. Reboot computer and when installation screen shows, write server and then press <return>

    Go through whole installation process. And when you find yourself in console login and then write

    Code:
    $ sudo su -
    This will put you in permanent sudo sudo status. So you don't have to write sudo over and over again.

    1.2 Adding extra repositories

    write

    Code:
    # wget http://ahacic.5gigs.com/sources.list
    # cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list_backup 
    # cp sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list
    # apt-get update
    # apt-get upgrade
    1.3 Next step to install x.org
    Code:
    # apt-get install x-window-system-core
    This will install you X server X.org in Ubuntu. Then you have to install Window Manager. I prefer ICEWM But you can choose any of the WM-s. you have got plany listed at this link
    Code:
    # apt-get install icewm
    Now we have to install wdm llogin manager.
    Code:
    # apt-get install wdm
    You can still choose to install xdm with:
    Code:
    # apt-get install xdm
    Now we have working enviroment but with no GUI application. You can now login with command
    Code:
    # wdm
    2. Application install.

    2.1 We need terminal
    Code:
    # apt-get install xterm
    2.2 File manager tool
    text based
    Code:
    # apt-get install mc
    Gui based
    Code:
    # apt-get install emelfm
    2.3.2 GUI Internet browser and mail client
    With mozzila you get them both together
    Code:
    # apt-get install mozilla
    if you want realy something fast instal Dillo browser and Sylpheed mail client
    Code:
    # apt-get install dillo
    #apt-get install sylpheed
    Now opera is free of charge you can DL it at
    http://opera.com/free/

    2.3.2 Text based browser and mail client
    For browser you can use lynx
    Code:
    # apt-get install lynx
    and for mail client you can use mutt+procmail+fetchmail+gnupg
    You can find tutorial howto setup this thing at this link
    Another page about Mutt. Click at this link
    2.4 Text editing tool
    Code:
    # apt-get install nedit
    Code:
    # apt-get install abiword
    Nedit is gedit replacement and abiword replaces OpenOffice Writer.

    Please DON'T USE OPENOFFICE

    Why? Beacause it takes to god thamn long to start

    2.5 Spreadsheet editor
    Code:
    # apt-get install gnumeric
    Replacement for OOo Spredsheet

    2.6 CD burner
    Code:
    # apt-get install graveman
    I use mkisofs and cdrecord - These two are already installed on Ubuntu server
    On this Link you can find howto burn with mkisofs and cdrecord.
    Anyway this is it. We have complete system installed

    2.7 Multimedia
    You are missing media players aren't you. Please read www.ubuntuguide.org for installing other applications. But I don't recommend you to install anything else on low-ram system. But its you choice. If you must install media players Install xmms and xine
    Code:
    # apt-get install beep-media-player xine-ui
    and codecs
    Code:
    # apt-get install w32codecs
    2.8 Gaim
    It has IRC MSN Jabber etc. support
    Code:
    # apt-get install gaim
    2.9 FTP
    Code:
    # apt-get install gftp
    2.10 PDF reader
    Code:
    # apt-get install xpdf
    If I missed something or if I made a mistake let me know.
    2.11 Bittorrent client
    Code:
    # apt-get install bittornado
    If you want GUI
    Code:
    # apt-get install bittornado-gui
    I hope this howto helped you.

    Sorry for my bad english
    Last edited by christooss; September 28th, 2005 at 01:21 PM. Reason: Removed fluxbox and added IceWM
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    Re: HOWTO Ubuntu mini ram

    I would use regular Mozilla over epiphany. Epiphany is the "official" browser of Gnome, so I bet it installs Gnome stuff.
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    Yes I changed that. I found that epiphany demands mozilla firefox installed

    About GNOME: If you install abiword you get gnome libs installed. So if there is an alternative....
    Last edited by christooss; June 20th, 2005 at 12:42 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by christooss
    Yes I changed that. I found that epiphany demands mozilla firefox installed

    About GNOME: If you install abiword you get gnome libs installed. So if there is an alternative....
    gnumeric too. They are part of the "Gnome Office"

    I guess the way around it is a lighter editor (leafpad) or a heavier one (openoffice).
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    It strikes me that this method could also be used for a "Gentoo Style" install (installing only the packages YOU want, total customization) without having to go through Stages or compiling
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    Hm I rather see gnome libs on my comp than installing OOo on miniram system.

    It "scares" me that mozilla-firefox and OOo need a ubuntu-desktop package
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    Quote Originally Posted by christooss
    Hm I rather see gnome libs on my comp than installing OOo on miniram system.
    How light is koffice?
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    I think this is not an option beacause it installs kdelibs.
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    116MB of Hardisc. That light Sorry but i don't know how much Gnome office takes. Beacause default Ubuntu system has some of the libaries installed. I think its the same size. But we dont need sql base installed or do we?
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    Re: HOWTO Ubuntu mini ram

    I'm trying to use this install method to setup Ubuntu on an old PII server I've got lying around, and I've run into some problems. I installed x-window-system-core, then fluxbox, then xdm, as suggested, but when I try to log in using xdm, it says there are no window managers found....something about /home/user/.Xsessions. I went ahead and installed xterm, then when I logged in using xdm, it just went to xterm, no window manager though. From there I can start fluxbox, by typing it in the xterm, but it still won't start right into it from xdm. Any suggestions?

    EDIT:
    Nevermind...I fixed it. I just added a .xsessions file in my home dir, and in it a put "fluxbox" in it, now logging in via xdm results in fluxbox starting.
    Last edited by spacemonkey; June 20th, 2005 at 07:57 AM.

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    I use Graveman as CD/DVD writer. It has enough options like overburning but doesn't use the KDE libraries. Try it and tell me what you like.

    //mulperi

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    Graveman is really better. I like to use it. Simple with overburn feature.

    If we don't think too light or mini we can use xfce4 instead fluxbox. 14-15 mb and better gui options. Or maybe a rox desktop only without xfce but how?

    Gaim stands alone with only gaim-data dependency.
    Emelfm and MC for file manager tools.

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    I added gaim, emelfm, mc and graveman

    Thanks

    Yes xfce is slightly havier
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    And also for mp3 player. When i look at xmms it takes 6132 kb and beep-media-player 3801 kb with same dependency. Also uses gtk2 not bad looking as xmms.

    Terminal ftp or Gftp. Gftp comes with no dependency and takes around 3500 kb.

    And have to fix xine-gui with xine-ui

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    Thanks

    Changed

    And I added pdfreader and Link Howto burn with mkisofs and cdrecord.
    Last edited by christooss; June 20th, 2005 at 11:07 PM.
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    Re: HOWTO Ubuntu mini ram

    Quote Originally Posted by christooss
    It "scares" me that mozilla-firefox and OOo need a ubuntu-desktop package
    uhm.. no, ubuntu-desktop depends on firefox and OO, not the other way around.

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    Ok sorry.

    I only know that when iI want too uninstall OOo ubuntu-desktop gets uninstalled to. And than if I want to install back ubuntu-desktop OOo gets installed too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by christooss
    Ok sorry.

    I only know that when iI want too uninstall OOo ubuntu-desktop gets uninstalled to. And than if I want to install back ubuntu-desktop OOo gets installed too.

    ubuntu-desktop is a meta package that simply tells apt to install these specific packages with so and so configuration.

    Anyways, that's a great howto. I have used the one that was outdated, except adding xfce4 for my wm (i still like a little gui in my machine) granted, it is SLOW, but for an old cyrix II 250mhz PC, with only 128 mb of ram, and half a leg to stand on, it does pretty damn good.

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    What about dillo for browser. Will it be too light ?

    # Dillo is small: source is less than 420 KB, and the binary is around 350 KB!
    http://www.dillo.org/

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    A nice improvement on XDM is WDM, which is in universe, I think. It ends up being somewhat of a GDM-lite. Not sure about the dependancies, but I'm sure its a lot lighter than GDM.

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    are tabs supported in dillo.

    I will give it as an option. What about light thunderbird clone?

    I will change xdm to wdm
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    xfce is a Desktop Enviroment

    Does anybody know link to where al wms are listed?
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    Like this? http://xwinman.org/

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    Thanks.

    I added the link
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    Awesome lil setup, I hope it's ok to post my spec's here...

    OLD pentium120 not even mmx, 64 mb ram!
    800x600/256

    Ok it takes a while for fluxbox to be up and running but once it is it's smooth sailing!

    Dillo(no tabs ), gaim, mc, xclock, xterm, xclipboard all running while i am posting this message.... and Dillo is still faster than ANY other browser lol.

    NICE!
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    what do you use for mail agent? Anybody has an idea about it?
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    Even i use a strong machine i like minimal installs. I tried so many of them. And i like to play.

    Anyway for mail agent. Will also be secure combination. I think of Mutt+Procmail+Fetchmail from terminal.

    This is for howto : http://wiki.sourcemage.org/index.php...chmail%2Bgnupg

    Maybe for gui we can think of Sylpheed?

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    Haven't dealt with email yet.

    Is Opera an option? I am finding Dillo a little strange even with the way it deals with these forums, little things like the 'new posts' link will automatically sign me out and 'todays posts' link will take me to a 'nothing found' search page... and I so can't live without tabs anymore.

    xalphas, YES! I am now thinking I want gnome off my better machines... perhaps a howto is needed for people who are running out of disk space, its a great solution for freeing up 1gb + on smaller drives. EDIT: or maybe its as easy as removing ubuntu desktop and then following this guide?
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    Quote Originally Posted by trash
    Is Opera an option?

    Yep.....
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    I will add sylpheed and mutt+....

    Thanks

    In my opinion opera is not an option. Why beacause its not free. OK its free with banners. and WE don't like banners do we?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eric71
    A nice improvement on XDM is WDM, which is in universe, I think. It ends up being somewhat of a GDM-lite. Not sure about the dependancies, but I'm sure its a lot lighter than GDM.
    Has anybody else tried WDM because I first tried XDM and didn't notice any extreme login times, where as with WDM I am now waiting 2-3 minutes while my password is validated.

    christooss: I know but it works so well... the 'generic' ad's are almost unnoticable compared to the 'custom' ones that are colored and flash.
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    Re: HOWTO Ubuntu mini ram

    hey,

    can anyone explain how i could do this without internet access? (i can get files off net elsewhere and burn them to cd)

    thanks!

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    Hm Which of these files are on Ubuntu DVD?
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    I guess i should have explained things a little better. I'm try to set up a laptop for a friend of mine. It only has a really slow modem, and doesn't have a dvd drive. I wonder if its possible to download these files (and their dependencies) on another computer, burn them onto cd and then follow the above instructions? Sorry if this is an annoying or frequent question, like i said i'm more or less a total noobie...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackwhite
    I guess i should have explained things a little better. I'm try to set up a laptop for a friend of mine. It only has a really slow modem, and doesn't have a dvd drive. I wonder if its possible to download these files (and their dependencies) on another computer, burn them onto cd and then follow the above instructions? Sorry if this is an annoying or frequent question, like i said i'm more or less a total noobie...
    Yes its posible

    Go to page universe repositories. You got link

    http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/

    And there download all packages
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    You than install them with dpkg -i package_name
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    Is there a HOWTO make CD from which user could apt-get these things from.

    I am more than happy to do it

    MRbuntu
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    One of kind guys from linuxquestions showed me this

    Link
    Link
    Link

    And now I can get in to making CD for low ram system.
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    This tutorial is great! I have tryed about 8 distros so far on my family computer, none of which work good, applications constantly dying from lack of memory. I hope this works, I am going to go try it right now.

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    thanks for the advice christoss, i'll hopefully be able to give that a go over or after the weekend

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