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    The sorry state of open source today...or at least that what he says

    if you have the patience to read the long article maybe you'll find it interesting maybe a little
    http://www.thejemreport.com/mambo/content/view/309/122/
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    Re: The sorry state of open source today...or at least that what he says

    written by a romanian or wasn't i paying attention?
    i'll read it later. i love all this phylosophical talks about open-source.

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    Re: The sorry state of open source today...or at least that what he says

    yeap... (m-a surprins un pic asta, ce-i drept)
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    Re: The sorry state of open source today...or at least that what he says

    Wow that took a chuffing long time to read...

    And it just makes me feel depressed about the state of open source software, it cant be all that bad can it?
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    Re: The sorry state of open source today...or at least that what he says

    when I look at the new upcoming releases like feisty fawn or fedora 7 or opensuse 10.3 I definitely feel the situation it's not that hopeless. not at all
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    Re: The sorry state of open source today...or at least that what he says

    It's a bit odd. He goes around stating how Open Source is about choice and then blasts distros that do not match his expectations as to how a Linux (or unix-like) system should be. I mean, I don't run an OpenGL window manager myself, but to jump on Compiz for being unnecessary eye candy is ridiculous when it can be turned off.

    Also, I'm not sure I like his aversion to computer users that aren't particularly proficient at computers.
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    Re: The sorry state of open source today...or at least that what he says

    One thing I noticed is that he said contradictions are inherent in life when arguing against software patents, but then argued against the GPL because he said the restrictions in it made it contradictory with its aim of freedom.

    Additionally, I'd say both the GPL and BSD-style licences have their own contradictions. The GPL imposes restrictions in the name of freedom, while the BSD-style licences give other people the freedom to impose restrictions on their derivative works. So the GPL can be said to be 'non-free' to begin with, but the BSD-style licences will inevitably lead to non-free works anyway in the real world.

    In an ideal world, we'd all use the revised BSD licence and everything would be fine. But this isn't a perfect world, we know there are people who will leech off free/open source software by not giving anything back if given half a chance, so the GPL is necessary as things are. Additionally, software patents are a threat, he notes this, and the biggest free software licence in the world really needs to be patent-aware if free software is going to stick around in any meaningful sense of the word.

    Nothing's perfect, but I still think the GPLv3 will be the free software licence for our time when it's finished.

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    Re: The sorry state of open source today...or at least that what he says

    It definitely starts out strong, but I think the author jumped the shark there trying to scare people about software patents. I give his essay a B-.

    In my opinion, software patents will have roughly the same effect as Domitian's edict regarding wine fields in Italy (i.e. virtually none).

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    Re: The sorry state of open source today...or at least that what he says

    This guy decided to rant out because he feels incompetent about his own failure to use open source software.

    It's still the best damn software production model out there and isn't going anywhere for a long time.
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    Re: The sorry state of open source today...or at least that what he says

    This guy decided to rant out because he feels incompetent about his own failure to use open source software.
    Did you read the article? First sentence, "I have been using open source software since the beginning of 1995"

    It's still the best damn software production model out there and isn't going anywhere for a long time.
    "Criticizing the sorry state of the open source today does not mean closed source is better. Also, the current status of the open-source projects is not bad per se, but only if we put side by side the expectations we had a decade ago with the reality we are facing now."

    I think he has some spot on criticisms. Why is 2.6.16 being maintained/stabilized when RHEL5 and Etch are using 2.6.18? The whole PATA/SATA kernel change with 2.6.20 was/is confusing for a lot of people. I'm also not a big fan of Mono and don't think any Mono apps should be apart of GNOME. And I also agree on his points about Bery, but I'm a dwm user anyways.

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