This show features an interview with Richard Stallman, founder of the free software movement and the man who put the GNU into GNU/Linux.

After introducing the concept of free software, Richard offers some trenchant criticism of two tech superstars: the Lord of Linux, Linus Torvalds, and Apple guru Steve Jobs. From there, we move into a discussion of the impact of free software – and freedom more generally – on the evolution of personal and global consciousness.

Note: This show is being released in two versions – the standard MP3 (which you can access using the player at the top of this post) and the free-er Ogg Vorbis. Richard has asked us to make clear that his preferred format is the Ogg version, which you can download here.