View Poll Results: What should be the default email client for Xubuntu

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  • Claws Mail

    97 60.25%
  • Mozilla Thunderbird

    64 39.75%
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Thread: Xubuntu, default Email Client

  1. #11
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    Re: Xubuntu, default Email Client

    he is taking votes for which GUI email client to use.

    you know what he means, you are just giving him a hard time.
    Last edited by Polygon; January 6th, 2007 at 11:30 PM.
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    Re: Xubuntu, default Email Client

    Quote Originally Posted by Polygon View Post
    he is taking votes for which GUI email client to use.
    I guess I missed the part where it said GUI only. Maybe you can point me to it. I'm just adding my opinion that I think mutt is a better choice then claws or thunderbird. I really don't see the harm in that. I guess my opinion it not wanted. I didn't mean to offend you.

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    Re: Xubuntu, default Email Client

    Yes you took the words right out of my mouth

    Although, i might agree as a console email client, mutt should be included in any distribution of Ubuntu.

    However is GUI email clients that i'm trying to discuss here, since i think that thunderbird is far from being an optimal solution for Xubuntu, I'm proposing Claws mail. I'm open to discussing other GUI email clients that can be more lightweight than thunderbird. I suggested Claws Email because it is the more lightweight GUI Email Client that i know, that is most actively mantained by the official Ubuntu repositories, and Claws author's even provided repositories for Ubuntu dapper and Edgy of the latest versions. Those reasons make it ideal for being deployed in the next Xubuntu release, in my opinion.

    However i want to see people opinions on that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Polygon View Post
    he is taking votes for which GUI email client to use.

    you know what he means, you are just giving him a hard time.

  4. #14
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    Re: Xubuntu, default Email Client

    Hi,

    As a developer of Claws Mail, I have to say I'd strongly support such a decision , and by support I also mean help the Xubuntu team to provide a great user experience.

  5. #15
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    Re: Xubuntu, default Email Client

    http://www.xubuntu.org/devel

    Join our mailing list and post out that you are interested so we can start making steps to keep in contact/collaborate.

  6. #16
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    Re: Xubuntu, default Email Client

    I like Claws Mail as it feels like two times as fast as Thunderbird. However, there are two important drawbacks I'd ask to be overcome before it is used as the default client:

    • The current support for html mails is incomplete. I don't send any html mails but some mails I receive are not detected as html and in fact reading source code is not very convenient.
    • Claws Mail doesn't use the user's Gtk+2 theme and preinstalled themes don't even include Tango.

  7. #17
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    Re: Xubuntu, default Email Client

    Hello,

    I want to have them both by default. The trick to acceptance is usually that it is not forces and goes slowly but stable. If we take away Thunderbird the step from windows to Linux would be more difficult that is not a good thing. So keep Thunderbird in it. However I am in favor of a replacement of Thunderbird because I don't stand behind the technic's used for it, GTK is much better. But I need all the functionality of Thunderbird to just be able to work with it. It it already a treat of between evolution and Thunderbird.

    So to conclude don't remove Thunderbird, add Claws Mail. Let it improve and be accepted then there may be a option to remove Thunderbird.

  8. #18
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    Re: Xubuntu, default Email Client

    Quote Originally Posted by kalikiana View Post
    • The current support for html mails is incomplete. I don't send any html mails but some mails I receive are not detected as html and in fact reading source code is not very convenient.
    • Claws Mail doesn't use the user's Gtk+2 theme and preinstalled themes don't even include Tango.
    Regarding support for html mails being incomplete. Claws Mail does not send HTML mail, it's plaintext only. This is only thing that qualifies its html mail support as incomplete. When receiving an html mail Claws will, by default, strip out the html tags, make any links clickable, and render the message as plaintext. However, there are 2 plugins which will show the html like a webpage, with all the formatting. They are the Dillo Browser plugin and the gtkhtml2_viewer plugin.

    Regarding your other point, on the contrary, Claws does use the user's Gtk+ 2 theme. The icons used by Claws are handled by Claws, but they are themeable. There are 2 Claws icon themes available that are based on Tango, they are TangoClaws and TangoOrbit and are available from the Claws site.

  9. #19
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    Re: Xubuntu, default Email Client

    Quote Originally Posted by TuxCrafter View Post
    But I need all the functionality of Thunderbird to just be able to work with it.
    Claws is fully-featured, I think you'll find all the same functionality, possibly more.

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    Re: Xubuntu, default Email Client

    Quote Originally Posted by daWB View Post
    Claws is fully-featured, I think you'll find all the same functionality, possibly more.
    I do not agree with that, I have tested claws for a week, and I find it not yet ready for a production machine there are to many things that just do not behave as aspected also the look of the program does not really appeal. I now there are lot of things that you can do about it. But it will not make me work faster or better, so no reason to switch over. I am not going to defend all my statements it is just to much work. But I will say geep going to improve it.

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