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    where is ubuntu going to?

    I think Ubuntu is becoming too much a distribution for the masses, losing much of its power in this transformation process. From Ubuntu 5.10 till now many progresses have been done, but also many option disappeared from our favourite operative system. Ubuntu is following too much the phylosophy of "the fewer option i give to the user, the less the user can mess up the computer". But that also means that the most of us, middle-experienced linux users will not find what firstly brought us from windows to linux, that pleasure of learning new things, of seeing our machine with a different eye, the eye of the user who can truly decide how his machine will work.

    I think that, in the effort of making things easier, ubuntu is not anymore offering a long list of useful features that i was always courious to explore, that i was courious to learn what they would do, but also that, becaming every day a little more expert, i would eventually find very useful.

    People who have power to decide how ubuntu, and the whole linux, gnome, kde, mozilla and similar, should pay attention to carefully balance the target of their works, otherwise they will certainly lose most of the people who chose Ubuntu as the right compromise between an easy to use system and the most powerful and complete, but also spartan and difficult to use system.

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    Re: where is ubuntu going to?

    I don't know what you're talking about...
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    Re: where is ubuntu going to?

    Quote Originally Posted by raul_ View Post
    I don't know what you're talking about...
    Going to have to agree. I don't get what you are trying to say.

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    Re: where is ubuntu going to?

    I think Ubuntu is becoming too much a distribution for the masses, losing much of its power in this transformation process.
    mass appeal, now why would we want that!

    i think if you want something with less appeal to the masses then there are plenty other distros out there, or you could always start your own!
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    Re: where is ubuntu going to?

    Well in this week's TWiT podcast (This Week in Tech) Leo Laporte and friends were discussing the future of operating systems into 2007. They started by saying that they were specifically talking about Windows Vista, Mac OSX and linux, specifically the Ubuntu distribution which is very popular of course. Isn't it great that linux has moved so far (ok I'm paraphrasing a bit, but not much)

    I absolutely respect the views of the people on that podcast, and what it says to me is that if they consider Ubuntu to be a serious option as someone's main OS, how that can be a bad thing in *anyone's* book is beyond me (unless you're a damp basement dweller of course )

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    Re: where is ubuntu going to?

    Most of the increased simplification isn't even Ubuntu's work. It's the result of increased simplification by the Gnome developers. While I love Ubuntu, I'm learning to hate Gnome because, in some cases, I'm finding Gnome to be over-simplified to the point of actually making some things I want to do or configure to be more difficult. Every time I have to resort to gconf-editor to change a setting, I get one step closer to switching back to KDE. Fortunately, Ubuntu works so well right off the bat that I don't bother changing much any more.

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    Re: where is ubuntu going to?

    It is a case of "linux becoming user friendly" frustration. .

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    Re: where is ubuntu going to?

    I find GNOME to be lacking in many options that KDE presents to you in a nice menu entry. BUt they tend to be configuration options that you rarely need to fiddle with, so don't really NEED a menu entry, IMO. But this isn't Ubuntu's fault. it's the GNOME devs. And I don't see it as a fault, so...yeah.

    I find the elitest paradox quite funny with some people:

    "Everyone should use Linux! M$ Sux0r5!!!"
    "Oh No! They're making a distro that people can easily use! It sucks!"
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    Re: where is ubuntu going to?

    Quote Originally Posted by d3v1ant_0n3 View Post
    I find GNOME to be lacking in many options that KDE presents to you in a nice menu entry. BUt they tend to be configuration options that you rarely need to fiddle with, so don't really NEED a menu entry, IMO. But this isn't Ubuntu's fault. it's the GNOME devs. And I don't see it as a fault, so...yeah.

    I find the elitest paradox quite funny with some people:

    "Everyone should use Linux! M$ Sux0r5!!!"
    "Oh No! They're making a distro that people can easily use! It sucks!"
    This is going to vary from user to user. User A isn't necessarily interested in configuring the same features as User B. I remember a friend of mine mentioning that he could never understand why some people would want to customize a certain feature in KDE. I gues I went kind of glassy-eyed at his statement because, at the time, it was always the first thing I changed whenever I did a KDE install! Just a matter of taste.

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    Re: where is ubuntu going to?

    If Ubuntu is becoming "too mainstream," then it's finally starting to live up to the hype. From the very beginning, its motto has been Linux for Human Beings--a misleading motto for Warty, certainly. Bug #1 is about appealing to the masses by making sure Windows doesn't come preloaded on most people's computers:
    https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1

    So if you thought Ubuntu was made to appeal to hardcore geeks, you were the one who hopped on the wrong distro. You should be using Debian, Gentoo, Slackware, or LFS.

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