View Poll Results: Should binary NVidia/ATI drivers be automatically installed&activated in Ubuntu?

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  • Yes (while informing the user of the relevant issues, etc.)

    665 31.19%
  • No (such drivers can stay in a non-free repo, just like now)

    328 15.38%
  • Users should be given a choice about this during installation

    1,139 53.42%
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Thread: Poll: Binary NVidia/ATI Drivers in Ubuntu?

  1. #11
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    Re: Binary video drivers to ship by default in Feisty

    Now does "ship by default" mean... when you install ubuntu off the cd, presto chango your computer will have those drivers?

    Or will it mean that during the installation process, you'll have an extra little screen saying, "You can sell your soul to Satan to make life convient. Y/N?" (Oh I'm clickin' Y baby!)

    Cause... even though I want the drivers, I want the choice. That's slightly psychotic, I know but... That's just me.

  2. #12
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    Re: Binary video drivers to ship by default in Feisty

    This would be pretty good, it would mean they can add some nice fancy effects. Maybe they should have two different types of Ubuntu's, Ubuntu basic edition and Ubuntu fancy edition(or advanced edition). Maybe they should just keep it as default so people don't have to worry about their choice of Ubuntu!
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  3. #13
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    Re: Binary video drivers to ship by default in Feisty

    I'm thinking of getting a new laptop with a GMA 950 video card specifically because of the open drivers for Intel cards. I assume this card will be 3d enabled and supported OOTB just as any ATI/Nvidia card?
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  4. #14
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    Re: Binary video drivers to ship by default in Feisty

    It will be. Intel and ATI cards up to the X800 are now OOTB 3D-capable.
    simplicity is perfection

  5. #15
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    Re: Binary video drivers to ship by default in Feisty

    Quote Originally Posted by chaosgeisterchen View Post
    It will be. Intel and ATI cards up to the X800 are now OOTB 3D-capable.
    How is the performance on the GMA 950? I don't need anything particularly powerful, but if it can handle AIGLX+beryl/compiz smoothly, I'll be perfectly happy.

    Sure, UT2007 would be nice to, but that's asking a bit much from an integrated card
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    Re: Binary video drivers to ship by default in Feisty

    I testet both with my own GMA950 (unfortunately the whole system is quite badly supported under Linux so I sticked to Windows XP on my notebook) and it worked like a charm. It slowed the system down noticeably, though.
    simplicity is perfection

  7. #17
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    Re: Binary video drivers to ship by default in Feisty

    Quote Originally Posted by prizrak View Post
    What is a traditional strength of Linux that is being neglected? Not having a nice looking GUI?
    Are you kidding?

  8. #18
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    Re: Binary video drivers to ship by default in Feisty

    He means open source, open source is being forgoten and it will get us in trouble because people are too quick to sell their freedoms for practical results instead of demanding open source drivers.
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  9. #19
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    Re: Binary video drivers to ship by default in Feisty

    I don't think that's the case.
    If people could start reading the spec before, that's could be great :
    https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AcceleratedX
    https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverEducation
    They'll install by default binary driver, what people usualy do after the install in any case.
    But then the system will alert them by a notification that there are using a non supported driver, and that they should prefer hardware that come with open source driver :
    To make this computer’s ______ work properly, Ubuntu is using driver software that cannot be supported.

    You can avoid this problem with your next computer, by choosing hardware from more cooperative manufacturers.

    To learn more later, open the Device Manager. ( Learn More... ) (( OK ))
    It's probably not the best compromise, but it's not a bad one.
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    Re: Binary video drivers to ship by default in Feisty

    givré is completely right. Im actually at UDS/MV now. All of this is so open its crazy. If you cant be here you can listen in. There really have been sound reasons for all the decisions going on.

    Me throwing the Metal sign.
    Last edited by MetalMusicAddict; November 9th, 2006 at 06:26 PM.

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