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  1. #31
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    Re: HOWTO: Japanese input in qt and gtk!

    thank you, i really needed to find the updated guide.

    now i just need to figure out hanyu pinyin input.

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    Unhappy Re: HOWTO: Japanese input in qt and gtk!

    For Japanese input capability, it used to be sufficient to install Japanese capability from the Language Support tool of the System -> Administration. Obviously not now. I'd already spent a lot of time with the so-called obvious answer before winding up over here... The Language Support tool did SEEM to give me the option of installing Japanese input support, but apparently they fooled me again.

    Excuse me, but this is completely insane. Why is Ubuntu getting worse and WORSE with each release? They've already convinced me to stop recommending Ubuntu. I can't even defend Ubuntu against criticism. The reply to "Ubuntu isn't ready for prime time" would be "Yes, but it's even LESS ready than it used to be." I'm still keeping my finger in, but at this point it's basically inertia and residual dislike of Microsoft (and increasing dislike of Apple and Google). I've already spent a lot of time becoming fairly comfortable in the Ubuntu environment, and I think that any other Linux distro would probably give me the same amount of grief. I've given up hoping for any joy here...

  3. #33
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    Re: HOWTO: Japanese input in qt and gtk!

    Update for Lucid 10.04:

    Ubuntu now uses IBus and no longer supports SCIM. Too bad IBus doesn't work with any Qt-based programs.

    My current language setup:

    1. Under System, Administration, Language Support, choose Japanese.

    2. Install programs that Ubuntu doesn't include by default (including essential packages ...)
    edict
    enamdict
    gjiten
    kanjidic
    kdrill
    poppler-data (to view Japanese PDFs)
    gs-cjk-resource
    cmap-adobe-japan1
    cmap-adobe-japan2
    xpdf-japanese

    To use SCIM, install:
    scim-anthy
    scim-bridge-agent
    scim-bridge-client-gtk
    scim-bridge-client-qt
    scim-gtk2-immodule
    scim-modules-socket
    scim-qtimm

    Anthy should already be present, along with ibus-anthy.

    To be able to add Japanese words to the dictionary (such as names and place names), install kasumi.

    I also installed more ttf fonts, but not all: Sazanami and Kochi gothic and mincho, VL Gothic, , Kiloji, Mikachan and ttf-mscorefonts (MS Gothic and Mincho, Osaka).
    Other nice fonts are available at http://www.wazu.jp/gallery/Fonts_Japanese2.html; download and put in your ~/.fonts directory. Not all have romaji, and not all even work. I kept: Aoyagi Kouzan(青柳衡山), Soseki and Reishoka (青柳隷書下), Aquafont, Armed Lemon, Azukifont, Cinecaption, Deshima (出島), several Epson fonts, HuiFont, Kouzan brush (two), Makiba, Mona, Moon, MtTare, nagurigaki, Ohisama, Onryou, SZG Memo, Sanafon (two), Sea, Sword, unifont

    3. the hidden home directory file ~/.xinput.d/en_US, which links to /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/scim-bridge, may need editing (as root)
    I changed mine to prefer scim-bridge, then scim, and not xim:

    XIM=SCIM
    if [ -e /usr/bin/skim ]; then
    XIM_PROGRAM=" "
    else
    XIM_PROGRAM=/usr/bin/scim-bridge
    fi
    XIM_ARGS="-d"
    if [ -e /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/*/immodules/im-scim-bridge.so ]; then
    GTK_IM_MODULE=scim-bridge
    else
    GTK_IM_MODULE=scim
    fi
    if [ -e /usr/lib/qt3/plugins/inputmethods/im-scim-bridge.so ]; then
    QT_IM_MODULE=scim-bridge
    else
    QT_IM_MODULE=scim
    fi
    DEPENDS="scim | skim, scim-bridge-agent, scim-bridge-client-gtk | scim-bridge-client-qt"

    4. Opera, and possibly other QT-based applications, may have more trouble than before. If you can't get Opera to work again with scim, you can start it from the command line with
    scim -d & XMODIFIERS="@im=SCIM" QT_IM_MODULE="scim" opera

    To start it from the regular menu, I made a file called ~/.bin/opera-scim:

    #!/bin/sh
    QT_IM_MODULE="scim"; export QT_IM_MODULE
    XIM_PROGRAM="scim -d"; export XIM_PROGRAM
    opera

    and then edited the menus to change the properties of the Opera item to run that file:
    opera-scim %u
    Last edited by James Keating; June 13th, 2010 at 01:53 PM. Reason: additions

  4. #34
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    Re: HOWTO: Japanese input in qt and gtk!

    Thank you so much James for taking the time and writing those steps for Lucid.

    since I use Lubuntu Lucid I don't think I can use the visual instructions on this thread.
    I would really like a step by step instructions (I would assume text-based) including all the packages I need and the way to switch between English and Japanese.

    having Those instructions will be valuable for
    xubuntu/lubuntu/kubuntu or any ubuntu-based distro.

    Thanks again!

  5. #35
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    Re: HOWTO: Japanese input in qt and gtk!

    Thanks. I've edited my post to note a few more packages that may be needed, especially for those running QT programs like Opera and KDE.

    I never heard of Lubuntu before, but the steps ought to work for any variant of Ubuntu. I think it's all there. Add Japanese under System > Administration > Language Support, and pick an input method (IBus is preferred now, but SCIM-Bridge is still better). With Synaptic, add the packages Ubuntu forgot, plus those you may need for QT applications.

    Ubuntu makes this all simple, aside from pushing IBus before it's ready.

    The only thing that has confused me so far was switching the display language. Anything in the list you initially see under Language Support is available, even if it is grayed out. To change to a language that is grayed out, you can't click on it. Instead, you have to grab it and drag it to the top of the list, then log out and in. Took me quite a while to figure that out. The whole interface is very counterintuitive. (And I wish it would stop insisting I have every English variant installed.)

  6. #36
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    Re: HOWTO: Japanese input in qt and gtk!

    thanks!

    I also found this thread and going to try it as well:
    http://swiss.ubuntuforums.org/showth...1473389&page=3

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