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Thread: ext4 filesystem released

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    Re: ext4 filesystem released

    Will this be included in edgy?

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    Re: ext4 filesystem released

    nah, way too late. i'm sure there will be a way for people to implement it in edgy, if they wish to do so. but it probably wont be a default till it gets extensively tested by lots of people.

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    Re: ext4 filesystem released

    Wouldn't you just need to compile the latest kernel to be able to use/create ext4 systems? Correct me if i'm wrong!
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    Re: ext4 filesystem released

    Quote Originally Posted by PriceChild View Post
    Wouldn't you just need to compile the latest kernel to be able to use/create ext4 systems? Correct me if i'm wrong!
    Yes, you need a kernel version 2.6.19-rc1 or later and the latest e2fsprogs, just as the announcement says.

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    Re: ext4 filesystem released

    Hey will this implement some sort of undelete/recycle bin or something?

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    Re: ext4 filesystem released

    Quote Originally Posted by grizzly View Post
    Hey will this implement some sort of undelete/recycle bin or something?
    I think 'Recycle Bin-like' functionality is something the OS provides (I certainly have one here with the KDE Wastebin). It's not like the Recycle Bin is an integral function of FAT16/32, it was Microsoft operating systems that implemented it (of course the idea was plagarized from Apple, where Microsoft get most of their 'innovation'). As for undelete, according to Wikpedia's ext3 article:

    "Unlike ext2, ext3 zeroes out block pointers in the inodes of deleted files. It does to simplify read-write access to the filesystem when the journal is being replayed after an unclean mount. This, however, effectively prevents files from being undeleted. The user's only recourse is to grep the hard drive for data known to signal the start and end of the file. This provides slightly more secure deletion than ext2, which can be either an advantage or a disadvantage."

    I don't think ext4 has been changed in this respect, so it'll be the same there. This isn't anything serious though. Just think for a second when you're confirming deletion of a file.

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    Re: ext4 filesystem released

    I don't think ext4 has been changed in this respect, so it'll be the same there. This isn't anything serious though. Just think for a second when you're confirming deletion of a file.
    Have you never rm'ed a file by mistake?????? besides the wrong file can always be deleted by a lil extra tab, similar spelling , or by another gazillion reasons why this can happen etc

    Currently I use (like most ppl i guess) :
    alias rms=rm
    alias rm=mv ~/.trash/

    which works, but..

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    Re: ext4 filesystem released

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhapsody View Post
    I think 'Recycle Bin-like' functionality is something the OS provides (I certainly have one here with the KDE Wastebin). It's not like the Recycle Bin is an integral function of FAT16/32, it was Microsoft operating systems that implemented it (of course the idea was plagarized from Apple, where Microsoft get most of their 'innovation'). As for undelete, according to Wikpedia's ext3 article:

    "Unlike ext2, ext3 zeroes out block pointers in the inodes of deleted files. It does to simplify read-write access to the filesystem when the journal is being replayed after an unclean mount. This, however, effectively prevents files from being undeleted. The user's only recourse is to grep the hard drive for data known to signal the start and end of the file. This provides slightly more secure deletion than ext2, which can be either an advantage or a disadvantage."

    I don't think ext4 has been changed in this respect, so it'll be the same there. This isn't anything serious though. Just think for a second when you're confirming deletion of a file.
    I think he refers to the fact that the recycle bin currently does not support the possibility to restore the file to the original location.
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    Re: ext4 filesystem released

    Kinda interesting but I wonder what the benefits are. Hopefully speed would be one of them, since lets face it for home users data integrity and availability is kind of an afterthought.
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