Ubuntu (not LTS) based dist. independent on Snap, FlatPak & AppImage?

[ruwolf]

Hello.

I love Debian & Ubuntu for their huge repositories, package dependency system, package managers like Aptitude or Synaptic, alien converter, documentation and support.

I hate Snap, FlatPak and similar uneaten disk space eaters.

Please, is there Ubuntu (non-LTS) based distribution independent on Snap, FlatPak & AppImage?

I need all packages, at least one web-browser supporting WebDriver for Selenium from standard archive format (e.g. .deb).

Mint was like that, but they switched to LTS.

Debian is Great, but not very often updated.

Have Manjaro similarly big repository like Xubuntu?

[grahammechanical]

Please, is there Ubuntu (non-LTS) based distribution independent on Snap, FlatPak & AppImage?

May be. I do not think that Flatpak or Applimage apps will run on Ubuntu without special extra software being installed. Ubuntu itself has special software called snapd that will make it possible to run snap packaged apps. If we do not install any snap apps we will not get that extra software that you dislike so.

Ubuntu now comes with certain applications that are snap packages by default. Such as Firefox; Thunderbird; snap store/app store/software centre.

There may be a Linux distribution that has nothing has to do with Canonical's snap software but it may have Flatpak software by default.

Regards






There may be distributions based upon Ubuntu that do not have the Ubuntu software that

[guiverc]

Hello.

I love Debian & Ubuntu for their huge repositories, package dependency system, package managers like Aptitude or Synaptic, alien converter, documentation and support.

I hate Snap, FlatPak and similar uneaten disk space eaters.

Please, is there Ubuntu (non-LTS) based distribution independent on Snap, FlatPak & AppImage?

Doesn't Debian meet those requirements by default? Alas it has no non-LTS; but if that was required I'd likely just use testing (currently that'll be trixie or what will be 13).

There can be slight differences in an installed Debian system depending on which installer you opt to use (two choices are offered, selected at download time just as Ubuntu offers), but to me both would provide what you're after.

Ubuntu too has ISOs that will install a snapd free system; though with Ubuntu the snap infrastructure is not disabled (just not installed), but multiple Ubuntu developers & members have blogged how to make this permanent (their blogs being picked up by Planet Ubuntu feeds; a number of which got mentioned in UWN why is maybe how I became aware of them). So you could install a Ubuntu system without snapd, then quite easily prevent its install as has been documented; though personally I think I'd just install the system anyway, and remove snapd & do what the bloggers wrote about anyway.

Flatpak & Appimage isn't enabled by default in either Ubuntu or Debian; Debian doesn't enable snapd either by default.

I don't see why you need to go elsewhere (ie. do you need a based-on system). My 2c.

[ian-weisser]

Looks like you have already done the research.

There is no unknown distro that also free and has a huge amount of packaged software. You saw the choices.

Time to revisit your requirements and prioritize your wish list.

[Rubi1200]

Unless you are absolutely adamant on sticking with Ubuntu or Debian, I suggest taking a look at Arch or Arch-based distros.

You mention Manjaro, but my personal recommendation would be EndeavourOS.

There are large repositories, including the packages you mention, and installing means learning a few basic pacman commands to get up and running.

[ruwolf]

Thank you all for your answers.

I will try Pop_OS, they use Ubuntu as base, now they quite late for upgrading, but allegedly only due their Cosmic DE development. (It is quite small company.)

[ne29914]

Just install (x)ubuntu and kill/uninstall snapd immediately. Then you're fine. AFAIK, neither Flatpak nor Appimage are there by default. I haven't seen them.

[ruwolf]

But Xubuntu without snapd has not any web-browser supporting WebDriver for Selenium; or has some?

I have tried Pop_OS and temporarily changed my mind. Now I will try SparkyLinux..

[volteos]

You don't need to use snaps on Ubuntu. When you install apps via apt, they're not snap packs.

Also if you want stability I'd recommend staying on LTS and not hopping off of it. Also Debian sucks, both as a community and an OS for general use. I'm betting they still use their crappy outdated installer.

[VMC]

My snap-less, flat-less Ubuntu size is 4.2GB. The Arch install is far greater. I couldn't get Arch under 5GB if I cut off its arms & legs.
I will most likely always use Ubuntu. As of right now, Snap is just an vestigial organ, like Appendix.