Ubuntu (not LTS) based dist. independent on Snap, FlatPak & AppImage?

[Norm24]

And "No One" will force you to, Relax!
I have been around since the year 2005, and I wouldn't do or write anything with intent to break anyone's system.

Just sharing my prefs, no more no less. Your free to do as you please. and I won't bitch about it.

The below quote wasn't even yours and I responded to it in a very rational calm way.No relaxation needed on my part.

This is easily proven to be false. Remove Firefox. Install it again using sudo apt install firefox The snap will be installed.

[1fallen]

The below quote wasn't even yours and I responded to it in a very rational calm way.No relaxation needed on my part.

This is what I replied back to also in a clam tone, just for accuracy.

.The only snaps installed on my pc are the core components that were installed when I installed Ubuntu(Mate) and like I said I'm not going to screw around in terminal to change that and risk breaking my current install.

Happy to hear no relaxation needed.

[TheFu]

This is not entirely accurate.After removing all Snap packages that I did want to use I either downloaded the .deb packages from source or used a trusted PPA.Perfect example of this is Firefox,I simply removed the Snap version of FF downloaded the Ubuntuzilla PPA+signing key then sudo apt install firefox-mozilla-build and no snap installed and I will always get the latest Mozilla build of FF.This applies to TB and SeaMonkey as well,same for LibreOffice,Edge and a myriad of other packages.With many other packages I simply downloaded the .deb from source and installed with Gdebi and no snap installed.

As an end user who's been with Ubuntu essentially from the beginning I don't like to muck around to deeply and screw things up,I'm not one to just start entering lines of code in terminal to change things that might screw up a basic install.I've had issues with snaps since they were introduced and have been doing exactly what I posted in the above paragraph since snaps first came on the scene.The only snaps installed on my pc are the core components that were installed when I installed Ubuntu(Mate) and like I said I'm not going to screw around in terminal to change that and risk breaking my current install.

Yes, there are workarounds. But there are workarounds for most things. If you remove the firefox snap, remove snapd, then runs sudo apt install firefox, it will come back as a snap. THAT's the point.
Nobody is going to remember to install firefox-mozilla-build or some other odd package name. And should we really suggest that anyone use a PPA like Ubuntuzilla? That's a judgement call. Before I gave up on Ubuntu desktops, I was installing the official Mozilla PPA and loading firefox-esr ... to me, that was too much hassle. We shouldn't have to fight with our distros over dumb things like snaps.

We show CLI commands here because they are complete and fast. There are GUI methods, if you prefer. We just don't want to have to post 10 screen captures, edit those 10 images to point out things, then write a paragraph for each when 2 CLI commands just does the right thing. It is about efficiency.

[VMC]

you dont need ppa, just go to firefox and get firefox browser:
https://www.google.com/search?q=fire...t=gws-wiz-serp

[Norm24]

Yes, there are workarounds. But there are workarounds for most things. If you remove the firefox snap, remove snapd, then runs sudo apt install firefox, it will come back as a snap. THAT's the point.
Nobody is going to remember to install firefox-mozilla-build or some other odd package name. And should we really suggest that anyone use a PPA like Ubuntuzilla? That's a judgement call. Before I gave up on Ubuntu desktops, I was installing the official Mozilla PPA and loading firefox-esr ... to me, that was too much hassle. We shouldn't have to fight with our distros over dumb things like snaps.

We show CLI commands here because they are complete and fast. There are GUI methods, if you prefer. We just don't want to have to post 10 screen captures, edit those 10 images to point out things, then write a paragraph for each when 2 CLI commands just does the right thing. It is about efficiency.

As far as the Ubuntuzilla PPA goes why not suggest using it?How could doing a one time install of a package called firefox-mozilla-build be odd and hard to remember?Firefox-mozilla-build is exactly what it implies...it's the Mozilla build of their browser Firefox,Nanotube's been maintaining that PPA for more years than 90% of the posters here have been members including yourself.Once the PPA is installed and you install FF you never have to worry about it again,when a new version is ready either update via CLI or GUI.

If you find all this to be a hassle and consider it fighting with your distro well THAT's on you.Not everybody's like you,some of us are just straight up end users.For someone who doesn't like snaps or Ubuntu desktops you sure spend a lot of your time telling people how to use it and why you dislike it in the same response,kinda like being a car salesman and telling the buyer it's garbage after the sale.

Have a good day.