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  1. #11
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    Re: Installing Ubuntu 24 w/o erasing???

    In terms of the recovery process: I have done the same

    apt-get:

    update
    upgrade

    --fix-broken install

    The 2 things that concern me most is that going through recovery mode even in the two kernel-5 modes that are on my recovery option list, I'm still getting the same constant loading screen (ubuntu studio design at the bottom of the screen & the little spinning loading circle keeps spinning coninuously) when I reboot & I try to load which ever kernel-5 version that I'd just 'recovery moded': -- so that makes me think its not the kernel-6 booting issue.

    So, I have a 1TB hard drive; with the original Windows in 1 partition; my main Ubuntu Studio partition, then there are 2 smaller old Ubuntu partitions (both are U18; that's why I roughly know when I originally set everything up). Even when I go into the back up Ubuntu partitions: I can't access my main partition. If there is a way to access that so that I can transfer over a handful of work files; I'd be fine with just doing a complete reinstall of the primary partition.

    I have added add more pics of the responses I'm getting from recovery mode.

    Hopefully, where some of my competence fails me in describing this, the pictures will help fill in some blanks.

    thank you, again: I do appreciate the assistance
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    Re: Installing Ubuntu 24 w/o erasing???

    Interesting update:

    I did a distribution upgrade on one of my Ubuntu 18 partitions & I followed these instructions, because they specify having to upgrade multiple times to get through multiple distros (such as myself going from 18 > 20 > 22):

    https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/how-t...e-your-release

    However, it seems as though these directions did a direct upgrade to U24 & now another partition is just loading (spinning circle on Ubuntu Studio) boot up screen. At the end of the upgrade process, when asked to reboot to finalize install; chose "Y" & upon reboot, I'm in the same spot & I'm pretty sure the directions just did a direct U24 upgrade.

    I did upload a few pics from the upgrade process & it can be seen the 2 other Ubuntu partitions (U24 is primary & U18 is, what seems to be my last standing & functioning Ubuntu partition).

    I didn't do anything not on the directions from that website or that I the terminal process didn't ask me to do. I am beyond frustrated that U24 seems to be breaking my laptop.

    I'm not a computer genius, but I have used Ubuntu for recording music, editing videos, running websites, making & publishing podcasts -- And over that more than a decade of working with & fixing various Ubuntu issues, I am extremely frustrated that U24 seems to have now nuked 2 of my partitions.

    what is going on, Ubuntu?
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    Re: Installing Ubuntu 24 w/o erasing???

    Your messages show (many times) temporary internet problems; which can be as the error message implies a temporary condition, and just waiting a bit and trying again is usually the fix.

    The cause maybe many things, for me at home, power-brownouts are somewhat common and some cheap router/switches I have just die on brownout & need to be power-cycled.. It can also be my ISP is dropping my connection & I have to wait until I get a new connection using DHCP, but I don't have great internet, but very rarely there can be other network issues that aren't local too...

    If I see temporary internet issues or temporary failure resolving I'll go back to basics.. Ensure my internet is up (`ip link`) that I have an ip address (`ip addr`) then I usually try and ping a few locations in the house (underhouse comms cupboard, garage where my servers are, external router) where I'm checking my internal house network (if I can't get to my comms cupboard; I'll likely get nowhere else as that's central; then I ping the 'arms' such as garage in this example AND a different 'arm' which is the router connected to my ISP or internet provider).

    `ping black` is how I'd confirm my router can be reached; but that's because I have local names defined; if they weren't I'd `ping 192.168.15.4`. Assuming I had no issues to this point, I've confirmed my local networking (my home) is functional, so I test outside of the home. Note: I'm using my local network as example only; I don't know how yours is setup & hope you know. In my case almost all IP addresses are static and I know them; and not using DHCP or dynamic addresses.

    On pinging external, I firstly ping my ISP using simple addresses (`ping 203.0.178.191` which I happen to know), then I ping google (`ping 8.8.8.8`). You may note I'm not using human.addresses, as I'm keeping it simple firstly & using addresses that don't require translation, sort of testing only the cable connections. If both those responded, I usually then try and ping them again using DNS or domain name service to ensure that is working, eg. `ping iinet.net.au` and `ping google.com` (not identical but close enough). If you get this far, I'd expect most internet to be working, and return & try again.

    In my case, in your position, I'd firstly run `sudo apt update` and ensure all lines look correct, no warnings or missing lines etc. I may also scan my sources (ie. `/etc/apt/sources.list` and `/etc/apt/sources.list.d/ubuntu-sources` and other files in `/etc/apt/sources.list.d/`) then if all looked good, try a `sudo apt -f install` and/or `sudo apt full-upgrade`.

    Your messages showed a check for a file that I see available for noble or 24.04

    Code:
     libglib2.0-0t64 | 2.80.0-6ubuntu1   | noble          | amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, ppc64el, riscv64, s390x
     libglib2.0-0t64 | 2.80.0-6ubuntu3.1 | noble-security | amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, ppc64el, riscv64, s390x
     libglib2.0-0t64 | 2.80.0-6ubuntu3.1 | noble-updates  | amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, ppc64el, riscv64, s390x
    thus if your sources are correct; I'd expect that package to be found; and you'll note it meets the requirement I noted in your screenshot message.

    As for kernels, if you get 5.15 working (you didn't specify what you've got, details can be useful) as you'd expect when selected at GRUB; you have useful knowledge.

    Can you use a text terminal; ie. let the system boot, and when it appears 'stuck', can you switch to a text terminal using Ctrl+Alt+F4 for example?

    If booting an older 5.15 kernel however responds the same as your 6.8 kernel; I'd try and boot the system only to runlevel 1 (ie. I'll edit grub line and add a ' 1 ' to the linux kernel line) and manually boot system from there (I'd also likely remove 'quiet splash' too, so I'm seeing more messages that may provide clues). What I'm looking for here is that the system boots; I'd also try this on the newer 6.8 kernel... as if it looks good from here, especially if you're getting text terminal logins - your issue is GUI only related... and package commands from text terminal is likely how I'd fix that.

    Sorry this won't be easy to follow I realize, hopefully you've gained something useful anyway.

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    Re: Installing Ubuntu 24 w/o erasing???

    Ubuntu 18.04LTS (Bionic Beaver) became unsupported in April, 2023.
    So unless you have extended support, your updates to 18.04 will not find repositories and never work.

    For LTS to LTS versions, the current LTS has to be totally updated, all ppa's removed as they may not be available in newer version, and proprietary drivers removed. You can then reinstall ppas & drivers in new install once updated, if required.

    Often then easier to just do a new install of 24.04.1 and restore from your normal backup of your data, /home & list of installed apps.

    There is "dirty" install or install without formatting. Any of your data should be preserved, but if you changed any system settings, they all will get overwritten with then new installs defaults. You need good backups, first.

    Over install without formatting to reuse same home data. "Dirty Install"
    System settings or anything in / may be overwritten with defaults. Good backups still important
    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuReinstallation &
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1941872
    https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2496620
    UEFI boot install & repair info - Regularly Updated :
    https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
    Please use Thread Tools above first post to change to [Solved] when/if answered completely.

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