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    Re: The Future of the Forum

    Quote Originally Posted by ian-weisser View Post
    Hi again folks,

    A few weeks ago, I wrote...



    Upon reflection, I'm going to change my suggestion to the Forums Council a bit:

    I'm going to revert to the original #8: Merging UbuntuForums into Ubuntu Discourse. (no longer suggesting a separate Discourse instance)

    I think a merge would be a boon to both communities, bringing fresh energy and perspectives to both.

    There are a cultural and operational differences that must be ironed out as part of the transition. Fortunately, we have a Community Council for exactly such governance questions, and we have a long history with the Forums Council working out exactly these kinds of differences into workable policies. A merge will require some planning and thought...inexpensive and worthwhile if the alternative is oblivion.

    I think it's worth a try. I think it can be made to work.
    I think that would be "Goodnight, Vienna". Alas.

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    Re: The Future of the Forum

    Oh sad.

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    Re: The Future of the Forum

    Please stay far away from Discourse. Traditional forums are far better and more user-friendly than that.

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    Re: The Future of the Forum

    Quote Originally Posted by oldiesmann View Post
    Please stay far away from Discourse. Traditional forums are far better and more user-friendly than that.
    +1

    Discourse is *no* substitute for a real forum. And some kind of integration with the existing Ubuntu Discourse would be about the worst of all possible worlds. As I said before, "Goodnight, Vienna"!

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    Re: The Future of the Forum

    Ubuntu Discourse (or Ubuntu Community Discourse) is a capable format for the Ubuntu Forums -- although I would prefer to see a new instance specifically for the UF rather than a subsection that would be somewhat at odds with the goals of the current instance.

    In fact, we used it temporarily when the UF was down for an extended period.
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    Re: The Future of the Forum

    Quote Originally Posted by werewulf75 View Post
    +1

    Discourse is *no* substitute for a real forum. And some kind of integration with the existing Ubuntu Discourse would be about the worst of all possible worlds. As I said before, "Goodnight, Vienna"!
    Are you perhaps thinking of Discord?
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    Re: The Future of the Forum

    Quote Originally Posted by QIII View Post
    I would prefer to see a new instance specifically for the UF rather than a subsection that would be somewhat at odds with the goals of the current instance.
    I fully agreed with this quite reasonable and sensible point of view...
    ...until I discovered that the Fedora community seems to reconcile the various goals on a single platform.

    That caused me to reconsider.
    Their implementation of an instance with the three tribes of users, volunteers, and engineers working together made a compelling vision.
    It looked, to me, like a better way. It's a vision of the way I have always wanted Ubuntu to be. The Fedora site is not perfect, but it's going in the right direction.

    I suggest others poke around that site and see if you like that vision.

    I completely agree that a separate UF instance is an excellent and safe Plan B. Wholehearted support.
    And, since we do have an excellent and safe Plan B, perhaps we have the breathing space to try a more visionary Plan A.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QIII View Post

    In fact, we used it temporarily when the UF was down for an extended period.
    Oh Yes I remember that, like yesterday. Until vinDSL broke it
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    Re: The Future of the Forum

    Quote Originally Posted by ian-weisser View Post
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    I suggest others poke around that site and see if you like that vision.

    I completely agree that a separate UF instance is an excellent and safe Plan B. Wholehearted support.
    And, since we do have an excellent and safe Plan B, perhaps we have the breathing space to try a more visionary Plan A.
    We use the same on a Arch/Based system: https://discuss.cachyos.org/c/general/4
    I like it.

    If it is set up with all options it will take the user (New or Old) and train them to use use the format.
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    Re: The Future of the Forum

    Quote Originally Posted by ian-weisser View Post
    That caused me to reconsider.
    Their implementation of an instance with the three tribes of users, volunteers, and engineers working together made a compelling vision.
    It looked, to me, like a better way. It's a vision of the way I have always wanted Ubuntu to be. The Fedora site is not perfect, but it's going in the right direction.
    Of the 3 tribes, I think volunteers & engineers will easily adapt to Discourse wherever we end up. For the new user searching for us, I think the intimidation factor should be low enough that they feel welcome to ask even a beginner question. This would mean less of a mixed bag I think. The developers should have their space, and the UF type support seekers should have their space in an easy to find manner.

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