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    Which GRUB?

    Hi. I have two partitions on one drive. One has 24.04 on it and one has 24.10 on it. I have forgotten how to change the configuration so that the machine shows the grub menu from the instance which has most recently been updated. I know how to update each grub, but I can not get the machine to boot showing the most recently updated grub menu. It would, of course, be great if both installations updated the same grub menu, but for now, I can live with manually switching between one grub and the other, if only I knew how! Any help is gratefully received!
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    Re: Which GRUB?

    The solution is to use a customized menu
    See
    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ma...tomGrub2Screen

    caveat new version of Ubuntu use /boot/initrd.imd and /boot/vmlinuz instead of /initrd.img and /vmlinuz
    so the entries should be as such

    Code:
    initrd /boot/initrd.img other stuff
    linux /boot/vmlinuz other stuff
    Remove other stuff and replace with whatever the wiki says goes in there at that placement.
    I'm being rather generic-ish.

    But when successful anytime either systems kernel is updated the new kernel is automatically linked to those files.
    And since grub is loading those files it'll load whatever new or old kernel is linked to it.

    fwiw, I used this method for 10 years and so far have only needed to mess/play with it 3 times for new hardware, new installation reasons.
    It's quite reliable.
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    Re: Which GRUB?

    Thanks! Your helpful answer has reminded me of the importance of asking the right question. In time I will, no doubt, use the technique you describe - I already have a reasonably customized grub on both instances. My real question should have been "How do I make the machine reboot using the grub menu of whichever partition I want?". In other words, I want to know the process from bios to grub menu and how to alter that to suit my particular circumstances.
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    Re: Which GRUB?

    I suggest that rEFInd installation might help you. I use it to multi boot across partitions (internal and external). It is in Synaptic.
    Last edited by dragonfly41; July 24th, 2024 at 09:44 AM. Reason: typo correction

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    Re: Which GRUB?

    Thanks again. I was kinda hoping to find the answer was "sudo grub-reinstall /dev/sda2" or "sudo dpkg --reconfigure grub-pc" or similar. I still want to know how my machine knows which grub menu to display. My google-fu is letting me down! Refind looks very interesting - I will try it when I am on the affected machine. (p.s. I think you mean "Synaptic" as the front end to the various apt/dpkg/repositories)
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    Re: Which GRUB?

    Last install is the default.
    Ubuntu, official flavors and many others use "ubuntu" as UEFI boot entry and the folder in the ESP - efi system partition.
    If you primarily boot one install, you just need to boot into that install & reinstall grub.
    Note that major grub update will overwrite that and you have to update again.

    You can also manually edit the ESP. But the esp you have booted from has very limited permissions in the fstab mount. You have to mount & edit from another install or change mount options. Boot-Repair still changes options, but it may be a bit of a security issues as then it is more open. I still change, but later my revert to more secure settings.

    fred@z170-noble:~$ cat /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/grub.cfg
    search.fs_uuid 811e6de9-cd5e-4983-9f45-5e72e73cb578 root
    set prefix=($root)'/boot/grub'
    configfile $prefix/grub.cfg
    Boot will be to the UUID of / (root) or /boot (if using separate /boot partition where full grub.cfg is. And then grub in that install should offer to boot all other installs.
    I have a lot of old test installs that are now obsolete, so use 40_custom for only those installs that I may want to boot. And turn off os-prober which improves grub's menu update as it does not have to search for all my installs.
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    Re: Which GRUB?

    (p.s. I think you mean "Synaptic" as the front end to the various apt/dpkg/repositories)

    To err is human


    Yes, sorry, but I posted just before closing down after a tiring day.

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