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    Install OVER Windows 11 Home - Bitlocker

    I am trying to blow away an installation of Windows 11 Home on my daughter's old laptop and replace it with Ubuntu Desktop. The Ubuntu installer says that Bitlocker is installed and forces me to reboot into Windows to turn off Bitlocker.

    In Windows, amazingly, there is no way to turn off Bitlocker. I am logged in as administrator and yet no way to turn it off. I also can't find an option to uninstall Windows. And yes, the Windows UI says that I am logged in as an Administrator.

    I've searched a ton online and gone in a lot of circles. The Ubuntu documentation I found suggests it IS an option to just reformat the whole drive and throw away all the encrypted data. I would love to do this. But the Ubuntu install doesn't seem to offer it. When I choose to overwrite, with or without LVM, it takes me to a page where the only option is to reboot to Windows and turn off Bitlocker. If I go into the advanced options, there doesn't seem to be a way to select the main partition to install Ubuntu on.

    What am I missing? Thanks.
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    Re: Install OVER Windows 11 Home - Bitlocker sucks

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    Re: Install OVER Windows 11 Home - Bitlocker sucks

    Quote Originally Posted by jdavidroberts View Post
    The Ubuntu documentation I found suggests it IS an option to just reformat the whole drive and throw away all the encrypted data. I would love to do this. But the Ubuntu install doesn't seem to offer it.
    Boot into a "Try Ubuntu" session
    Do not start the installation process
    Open Gparted
    Unmount partitions (if mounted)
    Create a GPT (GUID partition table) on your target disk

    This will remove all the existing partitions
    Edit: I would take an image of your Windows system first, because - you never know?

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    Re: Install OVER Windows 11 Home - Bitlocker sucks

    Thank you It says it is not mounted. The Mount option is disabled. I see "Format to", should I try that?
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    Re: Install OVER Windows 11 Home - Bitlocker sucks

    Those options aren't available for me in Windows, even though I am logged in as an Administrator.

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    Re: Install OVER Windows 11 Home - Bitlocker sucks

    Quote Originally Posted by jdavidroberts View Post
    What am I missing? Thanks.
    I don't have a non-Pro version of Windows 11, but in Windows 11 Home Microsoft added device encryption that is similar to and based on Bitlocker, but not Bitlocker. Try under Privacy and Security to turn off device encryption. I believe it is turned on by default.
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    Re: Install OVER Windows 11 Home - Bitlocker sucks

    At the top of gparted is Device.
    A blank drive defaults to MBR, but you can change to gpt which for UEFI you want.
    Since drive is gpt, not sure but I expect changing it to gpt may erase drive.

    MBR & gpt are not compatible, so the change totally erases a drive.

    Also NVMe has some higher level commands
    sudo apt install nvme-cli
    nvme - the NVMe storage command line interface utility (nvme-cli)
    nvme --help
    sudo nvme list

    sudo nvme id-ctrl /dev/nvme0 -H | grep -E 'Format |Crypto Erase|Sanitize'
    If sanitize supported. totally erases drive. Will be quick as it internal resets NVMe encryption.
    sudo
    nvme-sanitize

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    Re: Install OVER Windows 11 Home - Bitlocker

    Switching to gpt worked as a way to reformat. Thanks!

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    Re: Install OVER Windows 11 Home - Bitlocker sucks

    Just curious whether you tried my method of turning off device encryption in Windows?

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    Re: Install OVER Windows 11 Home - Bitlocker

    Quote Originally Posted by jdavidroberts View Post
    I am trying to blow away an installation of Windows 11 Home on my daughter's old laptop and replace it with Ubuntu Desktop. The Ubuntu installer says that Bitlocker is installed and forces me to reboot into Windows to turn off Bitlocker.

    In Windows, amazingly, there is no way to turn off Bitlocker. I am logged in as administrator and yet no way to turn it off. I also can't find an option to uninstall Windows. And yes, the Windows UI says that I am logged in as an Administrator.

    I've searched a ton onlinrives that had pre-existing Volume managers, such ase and gone in a lot of circles. The Ubuntu documentation I found suggests it IS an option to just reformat the whole drive and throw away all the encrypted data. I would love to do this. But the Ubuntu install doesn't seem to offer it. When I choose to overwrite, with or without LVM, it takes me to a page where the only option is to reboot to Windows and turn off Bitlocker. If I go into the advanced options, there doesn't seem to be a way to select the main partition to install Ubuntu on.

    What am I missing? Thanks.
    In Windows, if you open the 'Control Panel' > Search for Bit Locker . Under that section there are options to "suspend bitlocker". "Suspend BitLocker" turns it off. This is what I suggest to people if they are going to install alongside of Windows with it having bitlocker.

    Another way is to zero the drive. This is what I do for encrypted drives such as Bitlocker or LUKS), Volume Managers such as LVM2 or ZFS, or had software RAID such as mdadm. The way I do that is to boot from an Ubuntu LiveUSB > Use "Try". > Open a terminal session, then do: The example give is if /dev/ada is the disk I want to zero...)
    Code:
    sudo su -
    blkdiscard -f /dev/sda
    wipefs -a /dev/sda
    sgdisk --zap-all /dev/sda
    Everything will be gone, inside and outside the, and including the partitions & partition tables. It will be clean, and ready for any kind of install.

    Then just start up the installer and you can do whatever you want on that clean disk.
    Last edited by MAFoElffen; May 9th, 2024 at 01:16 PM.

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