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    Ubuntu support for coexisting with microsoft windows

    Hello guys, this is my first post on the ubuntu forums

    I am a long time linux user and have used all the different distro's

    also I like coffee and reading, and sunny days, if they're not too hot

    I was curious if anyone could tell me what the current status of support

    is for ubuntu living with microsoft windows on the same computer.

    I know in the past it was recommended that ubuntu be installed after

    windows, but now time has passed, and there is windows 11, and

    also noble numbat ubuntu, so if anyone has any information

    about this scenario in general that would be helpful. My PC

    is actually a windows 11 PC, that's how I purchased it, and

    it has a legal license to use windows 11 associated with it,

    and so I was thinking of a dual boot scenario with noble numbat,

    to take advantage of the unique features offered by both operating systems!

    Thank you : p

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    Re: Ubuntu support for coexisting with microsoft windows

    Ubuntu and Windows 11 can co-exist peacefully.
    Now, you have a PC with Windows 11 pre-installed but it would be helpful to supply more info.
    Specifically, can you accommodate two disks and allow each OS to occupy a separate disk?

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    Re: Ubuntu support for coexisting with microsoft windows

    I actually want to know as much as possible honestly. My preferred method has been to use one hard drive for both of them. I'm curious as to
    what the status is for Ubuntu's support of this use case, and possibly new developments such as with the next version of ubuntu
    coming out soon.

    I already know a lot about how to get this setup working manually on my own. I know how to get it working for example, whether or not windows or ubuntu
    was installed first, but what what I'm interested in learning is specifically about how Ubuntu is supporting using microsoft windows concurrently.

    edit: I don't have windows 11 installed right now, but am planning on possibly reconfiguring the operating system with Ubuntu+Windows 11 in the near future,
    what I was saying in the top post is that I have a windows 11 PC, that's made to work with windows 11, and has a windows 11 license, so I can go and download
    windows 11, install it, verify it, without issues at any point in time.
    Last edited by hyperlinxe; April 11th, 2024 at 05:55 PM.

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    Re: Ubuntu support for coexisting with microsoft windows

    You would be better off installing Windows first, Then partition the drive for Ubuntu and install Ubuntu beside Windows. Ubuntu will install the boot loader and detect Windows and make a provision for booting in from the boot loader.

    Good Luck,
    --glenn

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    Re: Ubuntu support for coexisting with microsoft windows

    New systems since 2012 are UEFI with gpt partitioning.
    Microsoft required vendors to install in UEFI mode with release of Windows 8.

    I installed Kubuntu 22.04 to my Dell laptop with Intel 11th gen chip, no nVidia to complicate install.
    Worked fine until I had to return system to Dell for repair as it would not charge. Came back & Kubuntu worked just fine, but Windows would not boot. Tried every repair option, tried new total install to existing partitions, nothing worked. I think Dell did not copy Microsoft Product Key over, so Windows thought it was a new system.

    But then installed a Dell recovery image. That reset system to as purchased. My Kubuntu was gone, but it was just the same data as desktop, so no great loss.

    But that shows why you need good backups of both Windows & Ubuntu.

    I also now have two external SSD to USB3 adapters with SSDs (one is actually NVMe type). Those have worked so well for both booting, data backup, and use with several systems, that I have not reinstalled Kubuntu to Dell laptop. I use external drive most of the time, except tax time when I have to use Windows.
    UEFI boot install & repair info - Regularly Updated :
    https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
    Intro to Discourse: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/welco...and-help/49951

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    Re: Ubuntu support for coexisting with microsoft windows

    how Ubuntu is supporting using microsoft windows concurrently.
    I don't really know what that means as windows and Ubuntu (Linux) are totally separate operating systems. With Linux, you can read/write to windows filesystems. With a default windows install, you can't do either. So what do you mean by 'supporting'? Also, as mentioned in previous posts, you need to post more details on your hardware and age of your system as well as whether you are using EFI.

    With EFI, it is quite simple to install windows first and Linux second and if you have them on separate drives, it is even easier to use them by selecting the drive in the BIOS.

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    Re: Ubuntu support for coexisting with microsoft windows

    I actually like to install windows after linux, I like having a neat tidy harddrive that makes sense to me with simple partitioning, and obviously I only rarely use windows anyways so I put ubuntu first.

    idk what support means, that's why I'm asking about it specifically. The levels of support for different features like using windows changes over time, I thought maybe casually asking in here might generate some useful info if anyone here knew anything about ubuntu's development whatsoever. Like I said I have a newer pc that came with windows 11 on it, so it has all the latest secure booting features and whatnot.

    I understand ubuntu has secure boot support now, so I can use it with both of them?

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    Re: Ubuntu support for coexisting with microsoft windows

    So nobody knows what the current status of Ubuntu's support is for Microsoft Windows on ubuntuforums.org as the latest noble numbat release is coming out.

    Mods can close the thread I guess. (it's been two days with no answer)

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    Re: Ubuntu support for coexisting with microsoft windows

    Maybe this answers your question,
    OSS ≠ CSS
    or maybe vice versa
    Last edited by him610; April 14th, 2024 at 02:56 AM. Reason: added clarification
    Cheers,


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    Re: Ubuntu support for coexisting with microsoft windows

    "Ubuntu's support for Microsoft Windows" is nonsensical.

    You can dual boot. Lots of people do that. It's not a "support" relationship. You can run Windows in a virtual machine on Linux. That is not a "support" relationship, either.

    Ubuntu provides no "support" for Windows.
    Please read The Forum Rules and The Forum Posting Guidelines

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