Headphone "locks" aound

[john163]

I have a Thinkpad X1 running Ubuntu 22.04 and docking station. If I insert a headphone into the jack, the sound will only come out of the headphones... I can't select the speakers on the monitor. My last Thinkpad (running RHEL 8 or 9) and docking station did allow me to leave the headphones in and still switch the sound around.

How can I fix this in Ubuntu?

[#&thj^%]

Youv'e not said what you have tried so I'll suggest trying>> 'alsamixer' in the terminal and try out the volume levels for speaker / headphones / master

[john163]

Youv'e not said what you have tried so I'll suggest trying>> 'alsamixer' in the terminal and try out the volume levels for speaker / headphones / master

Settings, Sound is where I go. I see three output devices... "Speaker - sof-hda-dsp", "Speakers - ThinkPad Hybrid USB-C with USB-A Dock", and "Digital Output (S/PDIF) - ThinkPad Hybrid USB-C with USB-A Dock"

I'm not sure what I'd do in alsamixer. I can arrow around and see some info, and the up arrow lets me change "Master", but selecting "Headphon" or "Speaker" doesn't do anything.

[#&thj^%]

alsamixer --help
Usage: alsamixer [options]
Useful options:
  -h, --help              this help
  -c, --card=NUMBER       sound card number or id
  -D, --device=NAME       mixer device name
  -m, --mouse             enable mouse
  -M, --no-mouse          disable mouse
  -f, --config=FILE       configuration file
  -F, --no-config         do not load configuration file
  -V, --view=MODE         starting view mode: playback/capture/all
Debugging options:
  -g, --no-color          toggle using of colors
  -a, --abstraction=NAME  mixer abstraction level: none/basic

Or even

man alsamixer

You navigate alsamixer with arrows in the right bottom corner of your keyboard.
Some Dock stations don't allow 2 devices, but you said it worked in Redhat right?
please show me this as well:

inxi -Az
Audio:
  Device-1: NVIDIA driver: snd_hda_intel
  Device-2: AMD ACP/ACP3X/ACP6x Audio Coprocessor driver: N/A
  Device-3: AMD Family 17h/19h HD Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
  Device-4: DisplayLink UOEOS Laptop Dock type: USB
    driver: cdc_ncm,snd-usb-audio
  Sound API: ALSA v: k6.2.0-26-generic running: yes
  Sound Server-1: PipeWire v: 0.3.65 running: yes

Please Note I'm on Pipwire/Wireplumber Audio:

wpctl status
PipeWire 'pipewire-0' [0.3.65, me@me-Lenovo-Legion-5-15ARH05, cookie:<Snip>]
 └─ Clients:
        31. pipewire                            [0.3.65, me@me-Lenovo-Legion-5-15ARH05, pid:5010]
        33. WirePlumber                         [0.3.65, me@me-Lenovo-Legion-5-15ARH05, pid:5009]
        34. WirePlumber [export]                [0.3.65, me@me-Lenovo-Legion-5-15ARH05, pid:5009]
        40. xdg-desktop-portal                  [0.3.65, me@me-Lenovo-Legion-5-15ARH05, pid:5484]
        42. xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin             [0.3.65, me@me-Lenovo-Legion-5-15ARH05, pid:6288]
        72. Firefox                             [0.3.65, me@me-Lenovo-Legion-5-15ARH05, pid:11]
        86. wpctl                               [0.3.65, me@me-Lenovo-Legion-5-15ARH05, pid:127169]
        92. Strawberry device finder            [0.3.65, me@me-Lenovo-Legion-5-15ARH05, pid:89495]
        93. Strawberry                          [0.3.65, me@me-Lenovo-Legion-5-15ARH05, pid:89495]

Audio
 ├─ Devices:
 │      45. HDA NVidia                          [alsa]
 │      46. UOEOS Laptop Dock                   [alsa]
 │      47. Family 17h/19h HD Audio Controller  [alsa]
 │      96. SRS-XB22                            [bluez5]
 │  
 ├─ Sinks:
 │      51. UOEOS Laptop Dock Analog Surround 5.1 [vol: 0.30]
 │      53. Family 17h/19h HD Audio Controller Analog Stereo [vol: 0.80]
 │  *   97. SRS-XB22                            [vol: 1.00]
 │  
 ├─ Sink endpoints:
 │  
 ├─ Sources:
 │  *   52. UOEOS Laptop Dock Analog Stereo     [vol: 1.00]
 │      54. Family 17h/19h HD Audio Controller Analog Stereo [vol: 1.00]
 │  
 ├─ Source endpoints:
 │  
 └─ Streams:
        95. Strawberry                                                  
             88. output_FL       > SRS-XB22:playback_FL	[active]
             89. output_FR       > SRS-XB22:playback_FR	[active]

Video
 ├─ Devices:
 │      43. Integrated Camera                   [v4l2]
 │      44. Integrated Camera                   [v4l2]
 │  
 ├─ Sinks:
 │  
 ├─ Sink endpoints:
 │  
 ├─ Sources:
 │  *   48. Integrated Camera (V4L2)           
 │  
 ├─ Source endpoints:
 │  
 └─ Streams:

Settings
 └─ Default Configured Node Names:
         0. Audio/Sink    bluez_output.F8_DF_15_7F_64_73.1
         1. Audio/Source  alsa_input.usb-DisplayLink_UOEOS_Laptop_Dock_4307293310436-02.analog-stereo

[john163]

joliver@mmjoliver:~$ inxi -Az
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Alder Lake PCH-P High Definition Audio
    driver: sof-audio-pci-intel-tgl
  Device-2: DisplayLink ThinkPad Hybrid USB-C with USB-A Dock type: USB
    driver: snd-usb-audio,usbfs
  Device-3: Logitech HD Webcam C615 type: USB
    driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo
  Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.19.0-50-generic running: yes
  Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 15.99.1 running: yes
  Sound Server-3: PipeWire v: 0.3.48 running: yes

joliver@mmjoliver:~$ wpctl statusPipeWire 'pipewire-0' [0.3.48, joliver@mmjoliver, cookie:3508632770]
 └─ Clients:
        31. pipewire-media-session              [0.3.48, joliver@mmjoliver, pid:5219]
        32. pipewire-media-session              [0.3.48, joliver@mmjoliver, pid:5219]
        37. xdg-desktop-portal                  [0.3.48, joliver@mmjoliver, pid:6094]
        42. wpctl                               [0.3.48, joliver@mmjoliver, pid:148624]


Audio
 ├─ Devices:
 │  
 ├─ Sinks:
 │  
 ├─ Sink endpoints:
 │  
 ├─ Sources:
 │  
 ├─ Source endpoints:
 │  
 └─ Streams:


Video
 ├─ Devices:
 │      33. Integrated Camera                   [v4l2]
 │      34. Integrated Camera                   [v4l2]
 │      38. HD Webcam C615                      [v4l2]
 │      39. HD Webcam C615                      [v4l2]
 │  
 ├─ Sinks:
 │  
 ├─ Sink endpoints:
 │  
 ├─ Sources:
 │      35. Integrated Camera                  
 │      40. HD Webcam C615                     
 │  
 ├─ Source endpoints:
 │  
 └─ Streams:


Settings
 └─ Default Configured Node Names:

[#&thj^%]

My X1 carbon 7th Gen really hates this:

Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 15.99.1 running: yes

I'm pretty sure you was running Piewire on Fedora or Redhat.
And here is why you not able to have both:

Audio
 ├─ Devices:
 │      44. HDA NVidia                          [alsa]
 │      45. UOEOS Laptop Dock                   [alsa]
 │      46. Family 17h/19h HD Audio Controller  [alsa]
 │  
 ├─ Sinks:
 │      50. UOEOS Laptop Dock Analog Surround 5.1 [vol: 0.30]
 │  *   52. Family 17h/19h HD Audio Controller Analog Stereo [vol: 0.80]
 │  
 ├─ Sink endpoints:
 │  
 ├─ Sources:
 │      51. UOEOS Laptop Dock Analog Stereo     [vol: 1.00]
 │  *   53. Family 17h/19h HD Audio Controller Analog Stereo [vol: 0.95]
 │  
 ├─ Source endpoints:

The above is mine, below is yours:

$ wpctl statusPipeWire 'pipewire-0' [0.3.48, joliver@mmjoliver, cookie:3508632770]
 └─ Clients:
        31. pipewire-media-session              [0.3.48, joliver@mmjoliver, pid:5219]
        32. pipewire-media-session              [0.3.48, joliver@mmjoliver, pid:5219]
        37. xdg-desktop-portal                  [0.3.48, joliver@mmjoliver, pid:6094]
        42. wpctl                               [0.3.48, joliver@mmjoliver, pid:148624]


Audio
 ├─ Devices:
 │  
 ├─ Sinks:
 │  
 ├─ Sink endpoints:
 │  
 ├─ Sources:
 │  
 ├─ Source endpoints:
 │  
 └─ Streams:


Video
 ├─ Devices:
 │      33. Integrated Camera                   [v4l2]
 │      34. Integrated Camera                   [v4l2]
 │      38. HD Webcam C615                      [v4l2]
 │      39. HD Webcam C615                      [v4l2]
 │  
 ├─ Sinks:
 │  
 ├─ Sink endpoints:
 │  
 ├─ Sources:
 │      35. Integrated Camera                  
 │      40. HD Webcam C615                     
 │  
 ├─ Source endpoints:
 │  
 └─ Streams:


Settings
 └─ Default Configured Node Names:

[john163]

I'm not clear on your response. Looking at the output doesn't help me... it seems to imply that I have no audio devices, but that is not the case.

If I run this "Pipewire" instead of PulseAudio, will that fix it? I found https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php...o-ubuntu-2204/

[#&thj^%]

Yes that link you show is a good method for installing pipewire/wireplumber.
I'll use this for reference for my installs: https://gist.github.com/the-spyke/2d...ent_id=3976215
My post your confused on is my X1 has very poor or broken sound with pulseaudio, and it is going to replaced with wireplumber and pipewire. (Sorry for the confusion)

This is the part I don't think you will have "If I run this "Pipewire" instead of PulseAudio, will that fix it? "
While the Carbon X series is a true work horse, I don't think your hardware has that function built in.
Our sound or audio chip is very close to that of a phone's audio chip with nicer speakers and maybe a few extras.
There is a PPA for missing codec's due to license issues. but II still don't think it will help you for this case use. (The PPA is in my link above)

[john163]

This is the part I don't think you will have "If I run this "Pipewire" instead of PulseAudio, will that fix it? "
While the Carbon X series is a true work horse, I don't think your hardware has that function built in.

Would a different docking station work? If so, how would I know which to get?

[#&thj^%]

Would a different docking station work? If so, how would I know which to get?

No it's our hardware limitations..Sorry i hate being the bearer of bad news. (Just not enough bells and whistles on that chip)
What model was your other ThinkPad?
EDIT: Please clarify speakers to headphone around, Do you mean both working at the same time?
If not then the pipewire install will or should take of that. (But not Both at once)