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    Re: So what is the best display server to use?

    Quote Originally Posted by MAFoElffen View Post
    Yes... With gaming mice, nVidia GPU's and such. I've a bit of experience with Windows, Linux and UNIX.

    I still do X11. I've been using XServer since 1988. I've been supporting Xorg since 2005. (When Alan Coopersmith taught me much about X11 and doing nVidia SLI on OpenSolaris.) I've been supporting the Linux Graphics Layer since 2010. Maybe you've seen my Graphics Resolution Sticky on the Forum?

    I can use Wayland, but have had problems with it from time to time. It is also not well supported by nVidia and Steam Games. So I keep going back to using X11. I think Wayland is getting closer, but is not there yet. No matter what the marketing hype says. It's still growing and working things out.

    Yes, I went to four x 44" 4K displays about 6 years ago. At the defaults, I would lose my cursor and it took me forever to get across the screens with the cursor. I made the cursor much larger and lowered the DPI, so that the mouse would go across them much faster.
    "I made the cursor much larger and lowered the DPI, so that the mouse would go across them much faster"
    You can do that with Piper? Should I do that too?

    Hey please go through here and read my other comments I've made to the others, I'm not currently using NVidia drivers for my GPU I'm using the Ubuntu default driver, one of the other users said I should switch over to NVidia drivers, so let me ask you are you using an NVida GPU and the NVidia drivers?

    I'm going to switch to the NVidia drivers and see if that fixes my problem.

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    Re: So what is the best display server to use?

    You know a user here said to try the NVidia drivers and that's actually a good point sir, I'll try that. The only reason I wasn't using the NVidia drivers was cause it caused a bug with an update which caused my whole computer to crash, which I fully explained in an earlier comment in this here thread.

    I'll try the NVidia drivers and I'll get back to y'all.

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    Re: So what is the best display server to use?

    Having used high-end GPU's since 2003 on Windows, then UNIX, then Linux...

    Learn to rescue and reinstall you nVidia drivers, enough that it becomes second nature. Meaning, set your Grub2 menu so that you force it to display at least 1-2 seconds.

    The reasons for this is that sometimes Linux kernel updates will boink your video driver, even with nvidia-dkms. It's much less often than it used to be, but still happens occasionally. Life happens when you don't plan for it. (-- John Lennon)

    The easiest thing to do is to add 'nomodeset' to the kernel boot line, so that you can boot and reinstall your drivers... Or go to rescue boot mode, enable networking, drop to a root prompt and do
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    apt remove nvidia-*
    Then boot with 'nomodeset'... Then reinstall the driver.

    Should you reset your DPi for your mouse settings? Yes. If it doesn't work to your satisfactions, you could always later do
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    sudo apt remove --purge ratbagd piper
    remove it, and be back to where you are now.

    I think you mis-understood, both AMD, Intel and nVidia work well with Linux. They do not play well yet with the Wayland graphics engine... Things are getting better, and they are trying to tweak it for gaming... Just not there yet. Intel and AMD have opened their drivers up to opensource and are included in the Linux Kernel. nVidia has been closed source / proprietary until very recently (within the past few weeks), where they just released their drivers as opensource for Linux Kernel 6.4. So I do not foresee that hitting Ubuntu until the HWE stack of 24.04 LTS.

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    Re: So what is the best display server to use?

    Quote Originally Posted by scott130 View Post
    So uh yeah I'm not using Wayland I'm using whatever is the default display server for Ubuntu
    The default display server for Ubuntu 22.04 is Wayland.
    You can check via the terminal:-
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    echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE

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    Re: So what is the best display server to use?

    So, when replying, it helps to answer the questions AND prove your answer. For example, you seem to think that X11 is the default for Ubuntu Desktop. It wasn't when 20.04 was first shipped. They backed it out for nvidia because the nvidia drivers/hardware didn't work well with Wayland, but for AMD/Intel, I think Wayland has been the default for some time. It is possible that your system got confused and is trying to use Wayland. So, please PROVE IT. Guessing isn't good. We need facts that are proven.

    Asking which display server is best is like asking which color is best. It depends.
    I'd rather use Wayland, but it doesn't handle all my workflows, so I don't. I suspect it will be 8-10 yrs more before Wayland handles what I need. I have time, as long as X11 is supported. Lots of flavors don't use Wayland still, so Canonical is willing to not have some functionality that X11 has provided for 20+ yrs to gain some of the great things about Wayland - like better security and higher local GPU performance. Performance is less important to my needs than solid network-agnostic program access. I routinely run programs on other systems and have the window displayed on my current workstation. This is a way of life for me and has been for 30 yrs - before ssh existed.

    Only you can decide which color is best for your needs.

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    Re: So what is the best display server to use?

    So I switched from Nouveau to NVidia drivers and the mouse felt good but it's still not as good as on my 24inch monitor, what gives? Is it simply cause the 55inch screen is just too big? On the 24inch monitor the mouse feels perfect, but now that I've switched to the NVidia drivers the mouse feels better on the 55inch (but I do have to turn up the mouse speed in the settings) but the mouse movement just doesn't feel as smooth and accurate on the 55inch screen as it did on the 24inch. What gives?

    Oh the Piper program can't even detect my mouse because I'm simply using a cheap $20 logitech mouse that I bought from Target a couple of years ago, it can't even detect my mouse lol.

    Is it possible a gaming mouse might make a difference here?

    Also one final thing, I'm going to head over to the hardware section of this site and start a new thread there about AMD graphics cards because I'm thinking about just buying an AMD graphics card. Would an AMD graphics card fix my issue here? I know that Intel and AMD graphics cards work fine with Wayland, well ok, I know for a fact AMD graphics cards work fine with Wayland, not totally sure about Intel actually. So NVidia is closed source but AMD and Intel cards aren't?

    p.s. Just to clarify, on the 55inch after I switched from Nouveau to NVidia drivers, the mouse movement felt better but I did have to go into settings and greatly turn up the mouse speed, but it's still just not perfect.
    Last edited by SpaceManJack; June 15th, 2023 at 07:51 PM.

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