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    Re: I'm on Ubuntu 22.04, after a simple update I now can't login, it's glitched.

    Can anyone help me?

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    Re: I'm on Ubuntu 22.04, after a simple update I now can't login, it's glitched.

    Your posts are very hard to follow.

    Have you got good backups of your documents? You should alwys have those, but this is especially important on an encrypted drive, as there's no recovery when it gets damaged. Can you use a live disk to access the filesystem to create backups, if you need? When your documents are safe, nothing bad can happen.

    It appears there was some packaging error recently for the proprietary nvidia drivers, which has messed up some systems with nvidia graphics. If you can still boot your system, at the very least to a command line, you could try to undo those changes. It won't be easy. Or, probably much faster, you could reinstall.

    The way to prevent problems like this is to look carefully at the list of chages the software updater proposes and to cancel when something bad is about to happen. That's why many disable unattended upgrades.

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    Re: I'm on Ubuntu 22.04, after a simple update I now can't login, it's glitched.

    Quote Originally Posted by Impavidus View Post
    Your posts are very hard to follow.

    Have you got good backups of your documents? You should alwys have those, but this is especially important on an encrypted drive, as there's no recovery when it gets damaged. Can you use a live disk to access the filesystem to create backups, if you need? When your documents are safe, nothing bad can happen.

    It appears there was some packaging error recently for the proprietary nvidia drivers, which has messed up some systems with nvidia graphics. If you can still boot your system, at the very least to a command line, you could try to undo those changes. It won't be easy. Or, probably much faster, you could reinstall.

    The way to prevent problems like this is to look carefully at the list of chages the software updater proposes and to cancel when something bad is about to happen. That's why many disable unattended upgrades.
    Thank you for taking the time to respond to me. How did you learn about the packaging error for the Nvidia drivers, where did you get this information? So this has happened to multiple people then?

    And please go back to page 1 and check out the changes I made to my post to make it easier to understand? Just read what I said I explain in detail what happened to me.

    Thanks.

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    Re: I'm on Ubuntu 22.04, after a simple update I now can't login, it's glitched.

    Yes, there are several recent threads from people with somewhat similar problems with nvidia drivers. I didn't pay too much attention to them, as I've never used nvidia graphics.

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    Re: I'm on Ubuntu 22.04, after a simple update I now can't login, it's glitched.

    Have a read through this long thread which may give you some clues as to what is going on with your machine.
    https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2482558

    I always uninstall unattended-upgrades from my systems as I like to know exactly what's happening and not leave everything in the hands of the system, particularly when it comes to upgrades which, as in this case, have been shown to be potentially harmful.

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    Re: I'm on Ubuntu 22.04, after a simple update I now can't login, it's glitched.

    Along with that link ajgreeny shows, there is this one:https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread....8#post14128058
    There are more as well.
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    Re: I'm on Ubuntu 22.04, after a simple update I now can't login, it's glitched.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1fallen View Post
    Along with that link ajgreeny shows, there is this one:https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread....8#post14128058
    There are more as well.
    Hey thanks for helping me out.

    I got a question for you cause I'm not sure, On page 1 can you see the image below the text that says "I might as well just include this. Here's a screenshot of "Advanced options Ubuntu" in GNU GRUB. I'm just trying to provide as much info as possible."? The reason I'm asking is because it's only showing 2 uploaded thumbnails on my end, when it should say 3 thumbnails, I uploaded 3 pictures.

    You didn't ask for this but I thought it might help so here's the output of
    Code:
    apt list --installed | grep linux-image
    Code:
    computer@computer:~$ apt list --installed | grep linux-image
    
    WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.
    
    linux-image-5.15.0-58-generic/jammy-updates,jammy-security,now 5.15.0-58.64 amd64 [installed,automatic]
    linux-image-5.15.0-58-lowlatency/jammy-updates,jammy-security,now 5.15.0-58.64 amd64 [installed,automatic]
    linux-image-6.1.0-1004-oem/jammy-updates,jammy-security,now 6.1.0-1004.4 amd64 [installed,automatic]
    linux-image-generic-hwe-22.04/jammy-updates,jammy-security,now 5.15.0.58.56 amd64 [installed,automatic]
    computer@computer:~$
    So I haven't actually done a clean install of Ubuntu just yet, because I'm wondering, so if I go ahead and do a clean install of 22.04LTS how do I know this bug won't happen again to me? Was it just bad luck that I ran into this nvidia packaging bug in the first place? And I'm seeing people say don't ever do an unattended update but honestly I'm a linux novice, I have to do unattended updates, I have no clue what the heck I'm even looking at lol. And my computer has an nvidia GTX 750 Ti so I have no choice but to use it.

    Also you seem like you're a Linux expert, so what exactly happened to my computer? What exactly caused it to glitch out on me?

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    Re: I'm on Ubuntu 22.04, after a simple update I now can't login, it's glitched.

    I am not sure about that 6.1.0-1004 kernel which i do not have o my 22.04 installs all of which have the same 5.0.15-58 kernel as you, though not the low latency version you have also in the listed versions shown.

    If you go to Advanced options in the grub menu and choose either of the 5.0 kernels does that allow you to login?

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    Re: I'm on Ubuntu 22.04, after a simple update I now can't login, it's glitched.

    Quote Originally Posted by scott130 View Post
    I got a question for you cause I'm not sure, On page 1 can you see the image below the text that says "I might as well just include this. Here's a screenshot of "Advanced options Ubuntu" in GNU GRUB. I'm just trying to provide as much info as possible."? The reason I'm asking is because it's only showing 2 uploaded thumbnails on my end, when it should say 3 thumbnails, I uploaded 3 pictures.
    There are 2 images attached to the post, so 2 thumbnails. There are also links to external image hosting sites and you may have uploaded additional pictures, but those weren't attached to the post.
    BTW, be careful with providing as much info as possible. You may end uploading the entire library of Alexandria, 99.99% of which is irrelevant and we can't sift through all of it.
    So I haven't actually done a clean install of Ubuntu just yet, because I'm wondering, so if I go ahead and do a clean install of 22.04LTS how do I know this bug won't happen again to me? Was it just bad luck that I ran into this nvidia packaging bug in the first place? And I'm seeing people say don't ever do an unattended update but honestly I'm a linux novice, I have to do unattended updates, I have no clue what the heck I'm even looking at lol. And my computer has an nvidia GTX 750 Ti so I have no choice but to use it.
    I have disabled unattended upgrades (by removing the entire unattended-upgrades package), but I let the system check automatically for updates every day and immediately show a pop-up when updates are available. So I get notified automatically, but I can review the list of proposed changes before agreeing.

    In your case, kernel upgrades get pulled in by the linux-generic-hwe-22.04 package. The version number of that should match the version numbers of the new kernels that get pulled in, so that should be 5.15.0-58. The linux-image-6.1 therefore is a big red flag.
    Also you seem like you're a Linux expert, so what exactly happened to my computer? What exactly caused it to glitch out on me?
    You have nvidia drivers installed. An update for those was available and installed, but the new version erroneously depended on the 6.1 kernel, which was automatically pulled in, but isn't ready for use on 22.04.

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    Re: I'm on Ubuntu 22.04, after a simple update I now can't login, it's glitched.

    thanks to ajgreeny and Impavidus They seemed to have stated my view on the matter, with one unimportant difference, some of the kernels that were erroneously pulled in was an Oracle-Kernel. You don't seem effected by that one.
    But I also agree that linux-image-6.1.0-1004-oem needs to be removed.
    At this time I'm running all Devel/Repos and I'm using 5.19.0-21-generic
    and this Laptop has no Nvidia GPU, And another Laptop AMD and Nvidia, I've not had issues with any kernels.
    This whole ordeal is kind of rare in my experience, I wouldn't worry about it happening often.
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