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    trouble ubuntu update firmware uefi dbx 217

    I have the "exact" problem described here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1432...e-uefi-dbx-217
    What I am using to boot my Dell Precision 3240 is identified here:

    Code:
    jgw-i9@jgwi9-Precision-3240-Compact:~/Desktop$ sudo efibootmgr -v | grep "Boot$(sudo efibootmgr -v | awk '/BootCurrent/{print $2}')"
    [sudo] password for jgw-i9: 
    Boot0000* ubuntu    HD(1,GPT,022047eb-4164-41df-b6df-bdd2e7bc6587,0x800,0x183800)/File(\EFI\ubuntu\shimx64.efi)
    I am not a firmware secure boot expert expert and I am not following the advice at the link except for the part that my machine might become un-bootable ...so my question is: is this something I really need to fix? or will it go away when I do a fresh install of Ubuntu 22.10 in a week or two. Also, (I am guessing here) it seems to be impacting updates because of the "security" angle (but not sure - I assume this problem if it is not related to the firmware issue will go away when I do a fresh install of 22.10 too), for example

    Code:
    jgw-i9@jgwi9-Precision-3240-Compact:~/Desktop$ sudo apt-get update
    Hit:1 http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu impish InRelease
    Hit:2 http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb stable InRelease                                                                                     
    Hit:3 http://dl.google.com/linux/earth/deb stable InRelease                                                                                      
    Ign:4 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu impish-security InRelease                                                                                
    Ign:5 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu impish InRelease                                                                                          
    Hit:6 http://dell.archive.canonical.com focal InRelease                                                                                          
    Hit:7 http://ppa.launchpad.net/unit193/encryption/ubuntu impish InRelease                                                      
    Err:8 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu impish-security Release                           
      404  Not Found [IP: 185.125.190.36 80]
    Ign:9 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu impish-updates InRelease     
    Hit:10 http://oem.archive.canonical.com focal InRelease
    Ign:11 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu impish-backports InRelease
    Err:12 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu impish Release
      404  Not Found [IP: 185.125.190.39 80]
    Err:13 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu impish-updates Release
      404  Not Found [IP: 185.125.190.39 80]
    Err:14 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu impish-backports Release
      404  Not Found [IP: 185.125.190.39 80]
    Reading package lists... Done
    E: The repository 'http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu impish-security Release' does not have a Release file.
    N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.
    N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details.
    E: The repository 'http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu impish Release' does not have a Release file.
    N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.
    N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details.
    E: The repository 'http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu impish-updates Release' does not have a Release file.
    N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.
    N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details.
    E: The repository 'http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu impish-backports Release' does not have a Release file.
    N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.
    N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details.
    jgw-i9@jgwi9-Precision-3240-Compact:~/Desktop$
    Any Advice appreciated!
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    trouble ubuntu update firmware uefi dbx 217

    Removing duplicate post - I don't know how i did this???? ...and how I got a duplicate thread. I was having connection issues and screen freezes at the time... sorry for any confusion.
    Last edited by jgwphd; October 14th, 2022 at 07:01 PM. Reason: removed duplicate post

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    Re: trouble ubuntu update firmware uefi dbx 217

    Do I see mixed impish & focal in your updates?
    You should only have one other the other & impish only supported until 2022-07-14.
    cat /etc/apt/sources.list

    If upgrading, not doing new install, you also need to make sure system is fully updated & all ppa & proprietary drivers are removed. You then restore them after update from you backups, if required.
    UEFI boot install & repair info - Regularly Updated :
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    Re: trouble ubuntu update firmware uefi dbx 217

    We need to clear up some possible confusion.

    As far as far as I know the only firmware that Ubuntu updates is Linux firmware - a package containing Linux hardware drivers for the OS that is updated by the Linux developers from time to time.

    Another kind of firmware is put into an integrated circuit by the motherboard manufacturer. It tells the motherboard what kind of hardware is on the motherboard. That firmware can be updated but you need to check with the manufacturer about it. The UEFI/BIOS utility reads the code in this integrated circuit.

    The Ask Ubuntu thread seems to be dealing with the Microsoft database that Microsoft uses to control (verify) what boot code can be run if secure boot is enabled in the UEFI/BIOS. Ubuntu developers have an arrangement with Microsoft to certify Ubuntu's Linux bootloader code. I think that this is completely different from your problem. Two years ago a serious security flaw was detected in the Grub bootloader. Once the flaw was fixed in Grub each Linux distribution had to update Grub in its distribution. But there was a problem. Existing ISO images of a distribution could not be updated. So, it was arranged for Microsoft to blacklist the old versions of Grub in its Secure boot database to prevent an ISO image from installation a distribution of |Linux with a very insecure version of its bootloader. That in my opinion is what the Ask Ubuntu thread was really about.

    E: The repository 'http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu impish-security Release' does not have a Release file.
    N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.
    N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details.
    That is nothing to do with Secure boot or the Microsoft database or the firmware of your motherboard. Ubuntu Impish is Ubuntu 21.10 and it reached end of life on 14 July 2022. The archives or repositories for 21.10 have been given a different internet address from the internet address in your /etc/apt/sources.list files.

    If you do a fresh install of Ubuntu 22.10 you will be installing a version of Ubuntu that only has nine months support. You will end up in the same situation you are in now. Better to install Ubuntu 22.04. It has five years standard support.

    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades

    Regards
    Last edited by grahammechanical; October 13th, 2022 at 10:09 PM.
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    Re: trouble ubuntu update firmware uefi dbx 217

    Please edit your first post to wrap your commands and output in [CODE] Commands & Output Here [/CODE]...

    One. I notice you are on 21.10. You say you are installing 22.10 fresh in a couple weeks. 21.10 is an interim release which will be EOS in July 2022. 22.10 is still DEV/TEST until it is released in a couple weeks. So you are skipping over 22.04.1, which is released and STABLE? Okay...

    Two. You did not post the results of
    Code:
    efibootmgr -v
    ...to compare what other efi files are there. So the information is incomplete to make any kind of determination of what is going on...

    EDIT: Dang. Now I'm really confused on what is being asked. LOL oldfred is right on the mixed repo sources... double posts and a mess to try to weed through. Wow.
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    Re: trouble ubuntu update firmware uefi dbx 217

    Please do not duplicate thread. We all all volunteers and need to know what others have already suggested.

    Merged rather than closed second post only because already comments in both threads.
    UEFI boot install & repair info - Regularly Updated :
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    Re: trouble ubuntu update firmware uefi dbx 217

    As requested here is the output:

    Code:
    jgw-i9@jgwi9-Precision-3240-Compact:~/Desktop$ efibootmgr -v
    BootCurrent: 0000
    Timeout: 1 seconds
    BootOrder: 0000,0008,0009,0002
    Boot0000* ubuntu    HD(1,GPT,022047eb-4164-41df-b6df-bdd2e7bc6587,0x800,0x183800)/File(\EFI\ubuntu\shimx64.efi)
    Boot0001* load_efi    HD(1,GPT,022047eb-4164-41df-b6df-bdd2e7bc6587,0x800,0x183800)/File(\EFI\Ubuntu\loadefi.efi)
    Boot0002* Linux Firmware Updater    HD(1,GPT,022047eb-4164-41df-b6df-bdd2e7bc6587,0x800,0x183800)/File(\EFI\ubuntu\shimx64.efi)\.f.w.u.p.d.x.6.4...e.f.i...
    Boot0003* Onboard NIC(IPV4)    PciRoot(0x0)/Pci(0x1f,0x6)/MAC(a4bb6d8d551d,0)/IPv4(0.0.0.00.0.0.0,0,0)..BO
    Boot0004* Onboard NIC(IPV6)    PciRoot(0x0)/Pci(0x1f,0x6)/MAC(a4bb6d8d551d,0)/IPv6([::]:<->[::]:,0,0)..BO
    Boot0008* Onboard NIC(IPV4)    PciRoot(0x0)/Pci(0x1f,0x6)/MAC(a4bb6d8d551d,0)/IPv4(0.0.0.00.0.0.0,0,0)..BO
    Boot0009* Onboard NIC(IPV6)    PciRoot(0x0)/Pci(0x1f,0x6)/MAC(a4bb6d8d551d,0)/IPv6([::]:<->[::]:,0,0)..BO

    My question is simple. I am going to do a fresh install of 22.10 [wipe the hard drive clean and install 22.10] when it is available and I want to know if these two problems will go away when I do it or is there something I need to deal with sooner or later (i.e. is the boot problem going to be there after the new system install, I forgot about Impish reaching EOL - my bad).

    FWIW, the reason for skipping 22.04 is that I have found it to be unstable and have had a lot of issues on my other machines. One issue for example: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2477197
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    Re: trouble ubuntu update firmware uefi dbx 217

    Which your previous post was 22.04 previous to 22.04.1 where most of the problems with 22.04.x were sorted out and corrected.

    I'm sorry, but I see a pattern of problems with the format of your posts, with what I thought was new, but since you posted one of your previous posts... You've been doing this for a while.

    You don't seem to know that it is a Forum policy to wrap all commands and output from commands within CODE Tags. There are two reasons for this. First, it creates a format that is easier for Users of the Forum to read the post. Second, unwrapped commands and output does strange/weird things to the forums software.

    Please edit your posts to correct that. In the future, please follow that policy.

    To wrap output in CODE TAGS, the easiest way is to use the "Go Advanced" editor, select/hightlight what you need to wrap, then press the "#" Icon in the toolbar. Alternately, you could type [CODE] before your command/output, then type [/CODE] after the end of it.

    Let's keep you out of trouble with the Moderators and Admin's by doing things the right way... I'm surprised no one has warned you about that yet.

    Just a tip...
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    Re: trouble ubuntu update firmware uefi dbx 217

    @MAFoElffen "Please edit your posts to correct that. In the future, please follow that policy." - I apologize i didn't read the policy or understand my impact. I'll be better in the future and I corrected my posts on this thread.

    BTW 22.04 was bad news to me on multiple machines, so I am anxious to get away from it.

    I still have my question asking for advice: I am going to do a fresh install of 22.10 [wipe the hard drive clean and install 22.10] when it is available and I want to know if these two problems will go away when I do it or is there something I need to deal with sooner or later (i.e. is the boot problem going to be there after the new system install, I forgot about Impish reaching EOL - my bad).

    FWIW, the reason for skipping 22.04 is that I have found it to be unstable and have had a lot of issues on my other machines. One issue for example: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2477197 my wife's machine has this annoying problem https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...x/+bug/1970957 and just a few hours ago I had friend bring over his HP laptop for an Ubuntu dual boot with windows 10 and we stumbled into the exact problem mentioned here today: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2479978 I am following that thread but I didn't look good telling him how wonderful Ubuntu was As a hobby I help out my family and friends and usually brag about Ubuntu... but not about 22.04.
    Last edited by jgwphd; October 17th, 2022 at 04:10 PM.

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    Re: trouble ubuntu update firmware uefi dbx 217

    Can someone speculate if my boot problem ( described here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1432...e-uefi-dbx-217 ) will go away when I do a clean install of 22.10 (wipe hard drive and NO upgrade) or is this something I need to deal with sooner or later (i.e. is the boot problem going to be there after the new system install)? Many thanks for your patience with my help requests!

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