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    I'm getting signaled there are updates available, however I've already updated

    I'm running a bunch of virtualized Ubuntu servers that I control via ssh.

    When I use ssh to access the machines, I'm greeted with something like this:

    Code:
    Welcome to Ubuntu 20.04.3 LTS (GNU/Linux 5.4.0-81-generic x86_64)
    
     * Documentation:  https://help.ubuntu.com
     * Management:     https://landscape.canonical.com
     * Support:        https://ubuntu.com/advantage
    
    297 updates can be installed immediately.
    167 of these updates are security updates.
    To see these additional updates run: apt list --upgradable
    
    
    The list of available updates is more than a week old.
    To check for new updates run: sudo apt update
    The problem however is that I've already updated/upgraded and there are no updates available:

    Code:
    $ sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade -y && sudo apt autoremove
    Hit:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal InRelease
    Hit:2 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-updates InRelease              
    Hit:3 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-backports InRelease            
    Hit:4 https://download.docker.com/linux/ubuntu focal InRelease                 
    Hit:5 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-security InRelease               
    Hit:6 https://apt.syncthing.net syncthing InRelease
    Reading package lists... Done
    Building dependency tree       
    Reading state information... Done
    All packages are up to date.
    Reading package lists... Done
    Building dependency tree       
    Reading state information... Done
    Calculating upgrade... Done
    0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
    Reading package lists... Done
    Building dependency tree       
    Reading state information... Done
    0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
    Where exactly are these update messages referencing? It seems they are out of sync?

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    Re: I'm getting signaled there are updates available, however I've already updated

    The update application has aquired the update list. You ran apt from the command line and updated. If you go back to the update application and choose update it will update nothing since as you say you have already updated and then the application will clear it's own list. But the application would have cleared it's list anyway the next time it checked for updates.

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    Re: I'm getting signaled there are updates available, however I've already updated

    @zebra2 -- not sure what your post means. Still getting this error after upgrading.

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    Re: I'm getting signaled there are updates available, however I've already updated

    Is it still the same output?
    Look at the settings for motd, or more specifically update-motd,
    Files are located in /etc/update-motd.
    Related package is base-files.

    See if this gives you anything to go on:
    https://stackoverflow.com/questions/...ts-not-running
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    Re: I'm getting signaled there are updates available, however I've already updated

    So I've looked into things and it seems when logging in (via ssh) and using PAM module, scripts are run within /etc/update-motd.d/. You can see this by manually running:

    Code:
    run-parts /etc/update-motd.d/
    So the relevant part regarding the update notifier is within: /etc/update-motd.d/90-updates-available

    When I manually run this file I'm greeted with:

    Code:
    #> /etc/update-motd.d/90-updates-available/
    
    297 updates can be installed immediately.
    167 of these updates are security updates.
    To see these additional updates run: apt list --upgradable
    
    
    The list of available updates is more than a week old.
    To check for new updates run: sudo apt update
    Specifically looking at the script:

    Code:
    #!/bin/sh
    
    stamp="/var/lib/update-notifier/updates-available"
    
    [ ! -r "$stamp" ] || cat "$stamp"
    
    find $stamp -newermt 'now-7 days' 2> /dev/null | grep -q -m 1 '.' || /usr/share/update-notifier/notify-updates-outdated
    Specifically looking at this script the variable $stamp contains the following:
    Code:
    # cat /var/lib/update-notifier/updates-available
    
    297 updates can be installed immediately.
    167 of these updates are security updates.
    To see these additional updates run: apt list --upgradable
    So the find command isn't exactly what I'm expecting -- I'm not sure what the newermt switch does but I'm totally confused --- where is the actual process that actually checks if updates are available??? Everything I'm seeing is referencing a static file declaring the number of updates. I was hoping like an executable would be run upon ssh login that would check for updates to generate these numbers -- not just reference a static file that was run at some other time (???like when the VM was booted)???

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    Re: I'm getting signaled there are updates available, however I've already updated

    So I think I'm onto something here -- On the one system descried above that isnt' working -- I get the following:

    Code:
    /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check --human-readable
    E: Unknown Error: '<class 'AttributeError'>' ('UbuntuDistroInfo' object has no attribute 'supported_esm')
    However on another installation that is working:
    Code:
    /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check --human-readable
    0 updates can be applied immediately.
    So the mystery deepens.

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    Re: I'm getting signaled there are updates available, however I've already updated

    Well I kind of solved the problem -- however its definitely a bug with likely a python package not being updated. I likely started out on 16.04 and have just updated my VMs (rather than installing fresh) to currently 20.04. The problem was in the python3 distro-info package. Possibly this was installed via pip3 -- honestly I don't really know -- however given the fact I don't really use pip3 most of the time on VMs specifically designed to run docker containers, I honestly have no clue. My reference for the fix is here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...r/+bug/1874250

    I fixed my problem via:

    Code:
    python3 -m pip uninstall distro-info
    sudo apt reinstall python3-distro-info
    Now things seem to be working:
    Code:
    # /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check --human-readable
    0 updates can be applied immediately.
    
    # python3 -c "import distro_info; print(distro_info.UbuntuDistroInfo().version('eoan'))"
    19.10
    Thanks for pointing me in the right direction on this issue. Only took about an hour to track the solution to this down -- which in the debugging world is pretty darn quick.

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    Re: I'm getting signaled there are updates available, however I've already updated

    I wonder if running
    Code:
    sudo apt update
    sudo apt full-upgrade
    would have sorted this for you straight away?

    From man apt
    full-upgrade performs the function of upgrade but will remove currently installed packages if this is needed to upgrade the system as a whole.

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    Re: I'm getting signaled there are updates available, however I've already updated

    @ajgreeny

    I did not try that option although if I restored the VM from snapshot I probably could. I don't know the answer to your question. I ran the full-upgrade command on the jail after making the changes I wrote about above and no other packages were listed for update:

    Code:
    $ sudo apt full-upgrade
    Reading package lists... Done
    Building dependency tree
    Reading state information... Done
    Calculating upgrade... Done
    0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
    I suspect the full-upgrade command would not have done anything however I honestly can't prove this theory without restoring from snapshot.

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