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    Lubuntu: is it just for Asian users?

    Just did a Lubuntu 20.04.2 fresh install on an empty machine.
    Language: German
    Keyboard: German
    Locale: Europe, Berlin
    BIOS set to German

    This is the list of installed fonts:

    Code:
    ab_admin@6910p:/usr/share/fonts/truetype$ ls -la
    insgesamt 204
    drwxr-xr-x 50 root root 4096 Feb  4 03:34 .
    drwxr-xr-x  8 root root 4096 Feb  4 03:34 ..
    drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Feb  4 03:34 abyssinica
    drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Feb  4 03:34 ancient-scripts
    drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Feb  4 03:33 dejavu
    drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Feb  4 03:33 droid
    drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Feb  4 03:34 fonts-beng-extra
    drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Feb  4 03:33 fonts-deva-extra
    drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Feb  4 03:34 fonts-gujr-extra
    drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Feb  4 03:34 fonts-guru-extra
    drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Feb  4 03:33 fonts-kalapi
    drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Feb  4 03:34 fonts-orya-extra
    drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Feb  4 03:34 fonts-telu-extra
    drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Feb  4 03:34 fonts-yrsa-rasa
    drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Feb  4 03:34 freefont
    drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Feb  4 03:34 Gargi
    drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Feb  4 03:34 Gubbi
    drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Feb  4 03:34 hack
    drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Feb  4 03:33 kacst
    drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Feb  4 03:33 kacst-one                                                                          
    drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Feb  4 03:34 lao                                                                                
    drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Feb  4 03:33 liberation                                                                         
    drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Feb  4 03:34 liberation2                                                                        
    drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Feb  4 03:34 lohit-assamese                                                                     
    drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Feb  4 03:34 lohit-bengali                                                                      
    drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Feb  4 03:34 lohit-devanagari                                                                   
    drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Feb  4 03:34 lohit-gujarati
    drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Feb  4 03:34 lohit-kannada
    drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Feb  4 03:34 lohit-malayalam
    drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Feb  4 03:34 lohit-oriya
    drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Feb  4 03:34 lohit-punjabi
    drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Feb  4 03:34 lohit-tamil
    drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Feb  4 03:34 lohit-tamil-classical
    drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Feb  4 03:34 lohit-telugu
    drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Feb  4 03:33 malayalam
    drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Feb  4 03:34 Nakula
    drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Feb  4 03:34 Navilu
    drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Feb  4 03:34 noto
    drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Feb  4 03:34 openoffice
    drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Feb  4 03:34 padauk
    drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Feb  4 03:34 pagul
    drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Feb  4 03:34 Sahadeva
    drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Feb  4 03:34 samyak
    drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Feb  4 03:34 samyak-fonts
    drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Feb  4 03:34 Sarai
    drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Feb  4 03:34 sinhala
    drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Feb  4 03:34 tibetan-machine
    drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Feb  4 03:34 tlwg
    drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Feb  4 03:34 ttf-khmeros-core
    drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Feb  4 03:34 ubuntu
    Huh?

    Comments from the Lubuntu Team (if they even read this) are also welcome.

    Thanks.

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    Re: Lubuntu: is it just for Asian users?

    We occasionally hear this comment, but as close to Asia as any team member, being an aussie (thus Australasian) who only speaks English (badly).

    I picked one font (`fonts-kalapi` a font I've never used) from your listing; I did an `apt-cache rdepends` and see that it's a requirement of LibreOffice.

    Are you asking us not to include LibreOffice? because it pulls in fonts you don't like as dependencies?

    You can look at https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/lubuntu-desktop and search for fonts and see what we list as dependencies (3 font packages only are required)


    Last edited by guiverc; May 25th, 2021 at 05:04 AM. Reason: change wording; which wasn't politically correct I fear; Apologies everyone

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    Re: Lubuntu: is it just for Asian users?

    Quote Originally Posted by guiverc View Post
    We occasionally hear this comment,
    ... and it's always from this guy.

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    Re: Lubuntu: is it just for Asian users?

    What's wrong with the list of fonts provided?
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    Re: Lubuntu: is it just for Asian users?

    It would seem that the Lubuntu developers are in cahoots with the Kubuntu developers. The default fonts listed are exactly the same.

    I'd spin up a vanilla Ubuntu VM, but I'm pretty sure what I'd find.

    The answer to the pointedly Eurocentric question in your title is "No". Ubuntu is for everyone, not just speakers of English and German.
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    Re: Lubuntu: is it just for Asian users?

    Kubuntu & Lubuntu are Qt based; maybe the Libreoffice requirements are pulled in because of our common Qt libs with LibreOffice... in my prior comment I stopped my examination of how `fonts-kalapi` go into my Lubuntu system when I got to

    `libreoffice-l10n-gu`

    & just wrote LibreOffice in my post (LibreOffice pulls in a lot of language files).

    Apologies to whomever reported my last thread. I used some language that I wondered about before I pressed "POST"; and should have acted first. Sorry

    Maybe helpful : https://askubuntu.com/questions/1140...-asiatic-fonts
    Last edited by guiverc; May 25th, 2021 at 05:18 AM.

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    Re: Lubuntu: is it just for Asian users?

    ab_admin@6910p:/usr/share/fonts/truetype$ ls -la
    insgesamt 204
    these are not all 204 fonts. you have posted only 50 in your code tags. they provide you with various other characters to write. i bet German fonts are also installed. as are other CE fonts, so you can read and write č,š,ć,ž,đ for example or Ł, so you can write and read the name of author Stanisław Lem for exmaple.

    i mean i usually have no need for ö, ü, ß and simillar nonsense in my day to day communication, but i have them installed on linux, windows, android... because there is an occasion when i want to read or write something in German.

    and who knows maybe i want to read & write in Chinese or Japanese as well on occasion (i would have to learn them first though). still their letters (fonts) display properly on my PC because they are installed.
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    Re: Lubuntu: is it just for Asian users?

    No. It's for all users. I think you will find that all those fonts you list are also capable of rendering non-asian characters.
    Which characters are you having difficulty rendering?

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    Re: Lubuntu: is it just for Asian users?

    Previous threads about the same subject:

    https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2435727
    https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2442361

    @ml9104, posting about Asian fonts in any Ubuntu flavour again will not be well received.

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