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    Lubuntu newbie

    Hi,

    New to installing different operating systems.
    I have only used Windows, and not really into programming.

    I have an old Vista laptop, and would like to try Lubuntu.
    I downloaded Lubuntu 18.04, and have the iso on my USB stick.

    I managed to get the USB stick to load first, and got the Lubuntu display screen, with all the options listed.

    I have really a basic question, does the first option listed " Install Lubuntu" permanently install the the system on my computer, or does it run from the USB stick? I don't want to install it on my laptop; just trying the whole thing out. I was under the impression you could install it on the stick, and run it from there.

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    Re: Lubuntu newbie

    The install option will install to the hard drive. There should be an option to Try Lubuntu which you can select to try Lubuntu and run it from the usb without making changes to your hard drive.

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    Re: Lubuntu newbie

    There should be an option to try Lubuntu before installing, whatever the words are exactly. That will start a live session. When you wish to install Lubuntu, you can start the installer from there. Simply running the live session won't change anything on your computer. Depending on how you created the live disk (with or without persistence), it may be possible for changes in your live session to be saved on the live disk.

    Lubuntu 18.04 is no longer supported. LTS releases of Lubuntu only get 3 years of support (same for Xubuntu, Kubuntu, ..; only regular Ubuntu gets 5 years). The parts it has in common with regular Ubuntu are still supported, so it's not that bad, but still. Lubuntu 18.04 cannot be reliably upgraded to 20.04, so I suggest you start with Lubuntu 20.04. System requirements are about the same.

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    Re: Lubuntu newbie

    Thanks,
    I wanted to try the latest version of Lubuntu, but I could only get a download for a 32 bit version; the latest being 18.04.
    Are there other versions out there that currently supported for a 32 bit system?
    I just tried the Lubuntu version because it was suggested it was good for beginners, and not too complicated.

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    Re: Lubuntu newbie

    First: from where did you get your Lubuntu .ISO file?
    lubuntu.net is a cybersquatter, lubuntu.me is the official site.

    Second: Ubuntu 32-bit is dead after 18.04. If you really have 32-bit hardware, lubuntu is the wrong choice.

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    Re: Lubuntu newbie

    It was .net.

    Yes, I really do have 32 bit hardware...not sure what to do with it.
    Wouldn't mind trying another operating system, but I have no idea what to try.

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    Re: Lubuntu newbie

    I would bet your box is x86_64 (amd64), but sold with 32-bit windows as it was a $5 cheaper license from Microsoft, and makers understood most consumers understood $5 far more than 32-bit versus 64-bit, thus selling it with the 32-bit windows.

    Lubuntu did have a later release than 18.04, but 18.04 outlived 18.10/19.04 due to being a LTS release, so later i386 releases make less sense than 18.04.

    The manual for modern Lubuntu can be found at https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/

    (to see the LTS release of the manual; ie. 20.04, you change "stable" to "lts", ie. https://manual.lubuntu.me/lts/ as the stable manual refers to latest 21.04)

    32-bit hardware was made & sold into 2007 yes, but it was all cheap intel atom (before the atom itself became amd64 as well during 2007), and to my knowledge x86 only atoms came with either Ubuntu or windows XP (resurrected from sale-death as Vista wouldn't install on the 32-bit hardware which is what Ubuntu had used to be sold on netbooks)

    Given you grabbed your ISO from a non-Lubuntu, non-Ubuntu site (3rd party) I hope you verified the ISO using checksums from a legitimate site.

    I'd suggest checking out you do need 32-bit, If you need an alternative, personally I'd opt for Debian (i386) but if it came with Vista it'll be amd64 I'm sure. You can explore how much support Lubuntu 18.04 LTS has (ie. `ubuntu-support-status`), and read some of my 2c on alternatives at https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/lubun...il-2021/2466/4

    (Note: amd64 is because AMD created x86-64, intel wanted the market to move to an backwards-incompatible IA64 architecture which failed to sell given there was an upward compatible alternative... intel's IA64 is now dead & intel use amd64 ; don't be scared of amd64 as it's correct even for intel cpus)
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    Re: Lubuntu newbie

    The issue of 32 bit hardware needing a 32 bit operating system that is still supported is discussed in this thread. It might contain some useful information.

    https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2461998

    All computer operating systems do the same thing but in different ways and with a different user interface. I would not describe Lubuntu as "good for beginners." Just as I would not describe Ubuntu as designed for the expert. We use to say Ubuntu is for humans. Meaning a user does not need to learn lots of commands in order to keep the operating system in working order. The same is true for the various types of user interface that are available. Although it was not always the case.

    In my opinion your biggest challenge is the installation. Even those of us who have done it before do not consider ourselves experts because it is not something we do all that often. Unless we like to try out different Linux distributions.

    You have one thing in your favour. You will not want to dual boot Linux with Microsoft Windows on that machine. If the installation does not go as you would wish you can always try again from the beginning.

    Lubuntu is built on Ubuntu which is built on Debian which is supporting 32 bit OS at least until 2024 and might continue longer. Her eis the link to their ISO image.

    https://www.debian.org/CD/live/

    https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd...86/iso-hybrid/

    With Debian you can choose the User Interface that suits you. It appears that Debian offers two installers - Calamares installer and Debian Installer

    https://calamares.io/

    You might find the Debian installer less helpful than Calamares. So, be prepared to try installing more than once.

    Regards
    It is a machine. It is more stupid than we are. It will not stop us from doing stupid things.
    Ubuntu user #33,200. Linux user #530,530


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    Re: Lubuntu newbie

    I can't say that Lubuntu is easier for beginners. Not all people, not even all beginners, find the same things easy. But if that laptop originally came with Windows Vista, it must be at least 12 years old, so rather weak by modern standards. Lubuntu has the lowest system requirements of all Ubuntu flavours, so that's probably the right choice. Here's the official site: https://lubuntu.me

    As stated above, it may be able to handle 64 bit, despite having a 32 bit Windows system. Would you mind sharing some hardware details with us? CPU, RAM, graphics. That may tell what's the best OS for that laptop.

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    Re: Lubuntu newbie

    Thanks for responding.

    It's a Toshiba laptop, Intel Core 2 Duo CPU T5450 @ 1.66 GHz 1.67 GHz
    2.00 GB Ram
    As for the graphics, all that I can find is "Intel Graphics Media Accelerator Driver for mobile"
    I realise this laptop is pretty old, didn't bother upgrading it, either.
    I am currently using the Maxthon 5 browser on my laptop, still stable and fairly safe to use.
    I can't see a link to attach a file from here, so I'll use cut and paste of a diagnostic report on my graphics.

    Intel(R) Graphics Media Accelerator Driver for Mobile Report




    Report Date: 05/23/2021
    Report Time[hr:mm:ss]: 13:33:12
    Driver Version: 7.14.10.1329
    Operating System: Windows Vista (TM) Home Premium* , Service Pack 2 (6.0.6003)
    Default Language: English
    DirectX* Version: 10.0
    Physical Memory: 2037 MB
    Minimum Graphics Memory: 8 MB
    Maximum Graphics Memory: 358 MB
    Graphics Memory in Use: 154 MB
    Processor: x86 family 6 Model 15 Stepping 13
    Processor Speed: 1662 MHZ
    Vendor ID: 8086
    Device ID: 2A02
    Device Revision: 0C




    * Accelerator Information *


    Accelerator in Use: Mobile Intel(R) 965 Express Chipset Family
    Video BIOS: 1436
    Current Graphics Mode: 1280 by 800 True Color (60 Hz)






    * Devices Connected to the Graphics Accelerator *




    Active Notebook Displays: 1




    * Notebook *


    Monitor Name:
    Display Type: Digital
    Gamma Value: 2.20
    DDC2 Protocol: Supported
    Maximum Image Size: Horizontal: Not Available
    Vertical: Not Available
    Monitor Supported Modes:
    1280 by 800 (60 Hz)
    Display Power Management Support:
    Standby Mode: Not Supported
    Suspend Mode: Not Supported
    Active Off Mode: Not Supported
    Raw EDID:
    00 ff ff ff ff ff ff 00 32 0c 00 dc 00 00 00 00
    00 10 01 03 80 21 15 78 0a b3 40 99 59 53 8d 27
    25 50 54 00 00 00 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01
    01 01 01 01 01 01 bc 1b 00 a0 50 20 17 30 30 20
    36 00 4b cf 10 00 00 19 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 fe 00 4c
    47 50 68 69 6c 69 70 73 4c 43 44 0a 00 00 00 fe
    00 4c 50 31 35 34 57 58 34 2d 54 4c 44 32 00 43




    thanks

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