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    new nvme and sata will not boot

    I purchased a new Pioneer 250gb NVME drive, cloned my original Samsung sata SSD EVO 250gb to it and it worked perfectly first time.

    This drive has neon 20.04 and Windows 10. It worked all the time I do not have the original sata drive installed.

    I also bought a new NVME Sabrent 2tb Rocket drive so both M2 slots on my Asus Strix 270E are populated.

    As soon as I insert the sata drive into the quick dock it no longer boots to either drive, all I get is the default grub black screen of nothingness. The same happens if I

    use my sata docking station via USB, black screen with that super-helpful black grub screen.

    If I remove the SSD drive all works ok.

    I spent the morning playing around with bios options, changing sata cables over and the configuration is

    now with sata 1,5 and 6 disabled, as sata 1 is required by the NVME drive, and 5&6 are required for x4 speed instead of x2 when they are enabled in the bios.

    Also the PCI16 is enabled not the USB3 in the bios.

    I have changed the UUID of the SSD so that is not the reason for the clash.

    I want to be able to boot from either device particularly for cloning and backup, but it does not look as if that is possible with my motherboard.

    Anyone any ideas?lshw_blkid.pdf

    Cheers Tony
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    Re: new nvme and sata will not boot

    show out of:
    Code:
    sudo fdisk -l and efibootmgr
    with all the drives plugged in

    edit:try with live cd if you can't get a terminal prompt. Use VT if possible

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    Re: new nvme and sata will not boot

    If the two SSD devices are really "clones" of each other, the partition UUIDs and other metadata will be the same on both devices. Not allowed. During the boot process when the O/S scans for storage devices the dupes are detected and since it doesn't know which to choose, it goes catatonic.

    reformat the old SSD. If you need to have a copy of the files on the new SSD, use rsync to make the copy. That will solve the duplicate UUID problem and using rsync will preserve all the filesystem metadata like ownerships and permissions.
    Last edited by rbmorse; May 17th, 2021 at 04:21 PM.
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    Re: new nvme and sata will not boot

    Quote Originally Posted by VMC View Post
    show out of:
    Code:
    sudo fdisk -l and efibootmgr
    with all the drives plugged in

    edit:try with live cd if you can't get a terminal prompt. Use VT if possible
    Can't do it, no boot with the sata drive in either direct sata cable to mobo or via USB.

    I'll give a live usb stick a go but I doubt it will work either.

    Get back to you soon, thanks for reply.

    Tony.

    EDIT*****************

    OK attached results.fdsk_efibootmgr.txt
    Last edited by vidtek; May 17th, 2021 at 04:31 PM.
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    Re: new nvme and sata will not boot

    grub.jpg

    Here is the dreaded black screen of grub I get. Sorry about the reflections, been pissing with rain all day then when I take a 'photo out comes the sun.....

    Tony
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    Re: new nvme and sata will not boot

    If you type "set" from the grub prompt, look for the grub partition that controls your boot. I suspect its your neon.

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    Re: new nvme and sata will not boot

    Quote Originally Posted by rbmorse View Post
    If the two SSD devices are really "clones" of each other, the partition UUIDs and other metadata will be the same on both devices. Not allowed. During the boot process when the O/S scans for storage devices the dupes are detected and since it doesn't know which to choose, it goes catatonic.

    reformat the old SSD. If you need to have a copy of the files on the new SSD, use rsync to make the copy. That will solve the duplicate UUID problem and using rsync will preserve all the filesystem metadata like ownerships and permissions.
    Thank you for your reply.

    I did wonder about the UUID's so I changed the UUID on the SSD sata drive. I have a dual quick release dock for https://www.amazon.com/Mobile-Intern.../dp/B07WK2M9GR

    When I changed the UUID I did wonder if it would affect windows10 activation status.....

    Anyway it made no difference, still get the black screen of grub as per picture above.

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    Re: new nvme and sata will not boot

    Here's a link on how to fix the minimal-bash prompt:
    https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/how-to...rror-in-linux/

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    Re: new nvme and sata will not boot

    To get around boot issue, boot live installer. Then post this in code tags, do not copy to another site.

    lsblk -o name,mountpoint,label,size,fstype,uuid,partuuid | egrep -v "^loop"

    How to use Code tags, # in advanced editor
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.p...8#post12776168
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.p...8#post12776168
    UEFI boot install & repair info - Regularly Updated :
    https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
    Please use Thread Tools above first post to change to [Solved] when/if answered completely.

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    Re: new nvme and sata will not boot

    VMC I can't see what the set command says it scrolls to bottom too quickly
    Last edited by vidtek; May 17th, 2021 at 05:53 PM.
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