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    Re: Why I'm still using Unity

    Ubuntu releases have a code name that is used during the 26 week development period. Some of us still use that code name even after the version has been released

    Ubuntu 20.04 = Focal Fossa; Ubuntu 20.10 = Groovy Gorilla; Ubuntu 21.04 (under development) = Hirsute Hippo. Animal names with an adjective in ascending alphabetical order.

    There still is a version of Ubuntu with the Unity desktop being actively maintained.

    https://ubuntuunity.org/

    Ubuntu with Gnome 3 shell and Unity will work fine. We get an option to choose the User Interface we want at the login screen. There is one thing to watch out for: Ubuntu developers now consider Unity to be obsolete. When upgrading to a newer version of Ubuntu we get asked to approve the removal of obsolete packages. Give approval to do that action and Unity will be removed.

    That is what happened to me when I upgraded from 18.04 to 20.04. I also think that it is now impossible to install Unity in newer versions of Ubuntu. I do not think that the Unity packages are in the repositories of newer versions of Ubuntu.

    Ubuntu 21.04 (hirsute hippo) will not be getting Gnome 40. Ubuntu developers have some Gnome shell extensions that make Gnome shell behave the way Ubuntu developers want it to behave. It is possible that Gnome 40 will break those extensions. Gnome 40 will be released close to the release date of Ubuntu 21.04 and the developers do not think that they will have sufficient time to fix any problems. So, we have to look to Ubuntu 21.10 to find Gnome 40 in Ubuntu.

    https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/01/...ome-40-or-gtk4

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    Re: Why I'm still using Unity

    Hirsute, Hippo Hirsute, is the development version of Ubuntu 21.04.
    You have to use Gnome instead of Unity to enable use of extensions. I don't know how "regular Ubuntu" and Ubuntu Unity relate to each other. I have never used different desktop version on one installation of Ubuntu.
    I booted an USB stick with Ubuntu to test it, but this didn't work as you can't install gnome-shell-extensions which is needed to install extensions. It's not available on the installation media.
    It's more safe to test this on another computer.
    However this is my desktop with some extensios installed.
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    Re: Why I'm still using Unity

    Quote Originally Posted by P-I H View Post
    Hirsute, Hippo Hirsute, is the development version of Ubuntu 21.04.
    You have to use Gnome instead of Unity to enable use of extensions. I don't know how "regular Ubuntu" and Ubuntu Unity relate to each other. I have never used different desktop version on one installation of Ubuntu.
    I booted an USB stick with Ubuntu to test it, but this didn't work as you can't install gnome-shell-extensions which is needed to install extensions. It's not available on the installation media.
    It's more safe to test this on another computer.
    However this is my desktop with some extensios installed.
    gnome-shell-extensions is it's own package with a select few extensions like user themes, window list, window placement, and classic gnome among a few.
    The package required in order to install extensions from the extensions web site is the chrome-gnome-shell package.
    Works in both chromium-based and firefox web browsers.
    I'm not sure if it works in Ubuntu's chromium packages as that is a snap package and I remember it did not work at one time but I never paid attention to whether or not it was resolved.
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    Re: Why I'm still using Unity

    Quote Originally Posted by grahammechanical View Post
    Ubuntu releases have a code name that is used during the 26 week development period. Some of us still use that code name even after the version has been released

    Ubuntu 20.04 = Focal Fossa; Ubuntu 20.10 = Groovy Gorilla; Ubuntu 21.04 (under development) = Hirsute Hippo. Animal names with an adjective in ascending alphabetical order.

    There still is a version of Ubuntu with the Unity desktop being actively maintained.

    https://ubuntuunity.org/

    Ubuntu with Gnome 3 shell and Unity will work fine. We get an option to choose the User Interface we want at the login screen. There is one thing to watch out for: Ubuntu developers now consider Unity to be obsolete. When upgrading to a newer version of Ubuntu we get asked to approve the removal of obsolete packages. Give approval to do that action and Unity will be removed.

    That is what happened to me when I upgraded from 18.04 to 20.04. I also think that it is now impossible to install Unity in newer versions of Ubuntu. I do not think that the Unity packages are in the repositories of newer versions of Ubuntu.

    Ubuntu 21.04 (hirsute hippo) will not be getting Gnome 40. Ubuntu developers have some Gnome shell extensions that make Gnome shell behave the way Ubuntu developers want it to behave. It is possible that Gnome 40 will break those extensions. Gnome 40 will be released close to the release date of Ubuntu 21.04 and the developers do not think that they will have sufficient time to fix any problems. So, we have to look to Ubuntu 21.10 to find Gnome 40 in Ubuntu.

    https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/01/...ome-40-or-gtk4

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    Interesting, I always select to remove obsolete packages. I upgraded to Ubuntu 20.04 lts (on my desktop and laptop), and both still have Unity as a login option.
    If Ubuntu 21.04 allows for the easy file/folder drag and drops that I'm looking for, then I'm confident that in future versions of Ubuntu lts that the features will be there. At that point, I would have no problem switching over.

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    Re: Why I'm still using Unity

    couldn't drag files to the desktop, drag a file from my download folder to my thumb drive, etc..
    xubuntu does all those things, its basically ubuntu with xfce DE
    even Kali switched to xfce DE...
    xubuntu 20.04.2 LTS (focal fossa)

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    Re: Why I'm still using Unity

    Quote Originally Posted by P-I H View Post
    Hirsute, Hippo Hirsute, is the development version of Ubuntu 21.04.
    You have to use Gnome instead of Unity to enable use of extensions. I don't know how "regular Ubuntu" and Ubuntu Unity relate to each other. I have never used different desktop version on one installation of Ubuntu.
    I booted an USB stick with Ubuntu to test it, but this didn't work as you can't install gnome-shell-extensions which is needed to install extensions. It's not available on the installation media.
    It's more safe to test this on another computer.
    However this is my desktop with some extensios installed.
    You gave me a great idea.
    I'll put the latest version of ubuntu (that isn't lts) on a bootable startup usb stick and see if I like it.

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    Re: Why I'm still using Unity

    Quote Originally Posted by P-I H View Post
    Tried it on Ubuntu Hirsute with Gnome 3.38.2. Works fine with these use cases
    - drag and drop from Nautilus to Desktop
    - drag and drop from Dektop to Nautilus
    - drag and drop from Nautillus to external usb disk shown on desktop
    - drag and drop from external usb disk to Desktop
    I made an Ubuntu 21.04 boot thumb drive.

    I was unable to drag a file from
    -desktop to download folder
    -desktop to USB drive
    -download folder to USB drive
    -download folder to trash

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    Re: Why I'm still using Unity

    I tried to use a an Ubuntu 21.04 boot thumb drive as written in my earlier comment, but I wasn't able to install the needed extension.
    The first time you shall install extensions with e.g firefox or chrome you are notified to do two installation one in the browser which works and one in the ubuntu system. I couldn't install the latter beacause it was not available on my 21.04 boot thumb drive.
    How did you manage to make the install?

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    Re: Why I'm still using Unity

    I opened a wish list request in Launchpad. One person replied. Apparently Gnome developers don't want us to use files/folders on our desktop.

    https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/695256

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    Re: Why I'm still using Unity

    Developers have their own ideas about the best functionality and best way to use your computer, but their ideas don't suit everybody.
    To make usage a little more flexible Gnome supports extensions and KDE supports Plasma widgets.
    I like Gnome as a base but also want other features.
    I want one panel and use Dash to Panel
    I want to change windows in W10 style and use AlternateTab
    I want a menu and use Application Menu
    I want to understand the current state of my computer like temperatures, fan speeds and cpu frequency and use Vitals.
    It's quite easy to install extensions, but sometimes they stop working when Gnome updates to a new version.
    There are alot of information about how to install extensions, but here are some pictures.
    1- Use Firefox or Chrome to goto the page https://extensions.gnome.org/. Follow the instructions to install the browser extension and go to the wiki page.
    2- On the wiki page goto Ubuntu Linux
    3- Open a terminal and do sudo apt-get install chrome-gnome-shell
    4- Restart your browser, goto https://extensions.gnome.org/ again and search for wanted extensions and install.

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