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    Re: Can I Let Windows 10 Go?

    I haven't used Windows in fifteen years.

    Quote Originally Posted by Quarkrad View Post
    If one is 100% Linux and buys say, a year old bit of hardware that has firmware update(s), is there not a big danger that said hardware could not be updated?
    Linux has the Linux Vendor Firmware Service. Don't buy from companies that don't use LVFS.

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    Re: Can I Let Windows 10 Go?

    Having ,at least,2 OS on a device is a very simple and efficient way
    to diagnose between software and hardware problems.
    I once disabled BIOS USB support on a a PC with only USB ports.
    So I couldn't enter BIOS any more.
    1 year later I found a BIOS update that worked from Windows.
    Before deleting an OS make sure you can restore it from a backup.
    After all you paid for it.
    Happy user of Ubuntu-20.04 on a Beelink BT3pro mini PC

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    Re: Can I Let Windows 10 Go?

    Quote Originally Posted by CatKiller View Post
    I haven't used Windows in fifteen years.

    Exactly the same here. My last Windows computer was XP SP2. I didn't hate Windows...I just fell in love with Ubuntu (but to be fair, I originally switched to PCLinuxOS, then Kubuntu 7.04 when I discovered it).

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    Re: Can I Let Windows 10 Go?

    I used Rufus to put Windows-To-Go on a 15GB USB stick.
    A 64GB or 128GB stick would be better.
    The make of flash drive makes a big difference in performance.

    Oops, I now see the title of this thread is Can I Let Windows 10 Go? not Can I get Windows 10 to Go?

    Well maybe keeping it on a flash drive is good enough.

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    Re: Can I Let Windows 10 Go?

    Thought from the bath: updating the motherboard and cpu is a very infrequent activity so why not put win10 on an old hd and when an upgrade needs to be done unplug existing storage and plug in the win10 hd. Upgrade and then put everything back - not going to take long.

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    Re: Can I Let Windows 10 Go?

    Quote Originally Posted by CatKiller View Post
    I haven't used Windows in fifteen years.



    Linux has the Linux Vendor Firmware Service. Don't buy from companies that don't use LVFS.
    Hah, easier said then done. Most companies don't for obvious reasons. It's like saying "Don't buy cars with wheels", good luck with that.

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    Re: Can I Let Windows 10 Go?

    @mikewhatever
    Did you look at list?
    Most new Dell for several years have been on list. Lenovo started a few months ago adding systems. HP looks like they just started.
    Many other smaller vendors and systems.

    Direct link to info, vendors & devices.
    https://github.com/rhboot/fwupdate/b...ster/README.md
    https://fwupd.org/vendorlist &
    https://fwupd.org/lvfs/devicelist


    https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pa...-Support-Start
    https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pa...romebook-Fwupd
    For more info on UEFI boot install & repair - Regularly Updated :
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
    Please use Thread Tools above first post to change to [Solved] when/if answered completely.

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    Re: Can I Let Windows 10 Go?

    Quote Originally Posted by oldfred View Post
    Most new Dell for several years have been on list. Lenovo started a few months ago adding systems. HP looks like they just started.
    many devices are still off that list. it is good to see HP, Dell and Lenovo there. but the branded PC for example are quite expensive here.

    anyway i still think that to do an update a windows 10 boot environment is all that is needed and that can be on DVD or flash drive. so you don't actually need windows installed. if more joined this initiative, then windows 10 would not be needed even for firmware update.

    i am surprised Gigabyte is not there, but i guess it is the chip designer that should be (AMD/Intel).

    notably missing are various peripheral devices. i.e. Garmin devices, maybe some drones, cameras etc.
    Read the easy to understand, lots of pics Ubuntu manual.
    Do i need antivirus/firewall in linux?
    Full disk backup (newer kernel -> suitable for newer PC): Clonezilla
    User friendly full disk backup: Rescuezilla

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    Re: Can I Let Windows 10 Go?

    My philosophy is that any firmware update should be OS agnostic. UEFI standards allow and recommend it.

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    Re: Can I Let Windows 10 Go?

    Quote Originally Posted by oldfred View Post
    @mikewhatever
    Did you look at list?
    Most new Dell for several years have been on list. Lenovo started a few months ago adding systems. HP looks like they just started.
    Many other smaller vendors and systems.

    Direct link to info, vendors & devices.
    https://github.com/rhboot/fwupdate/b...ster/README.md
    https://fwupd.org/vendorlist &
    https://fwupd.org/lvfs/devicelist


    https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pa...-Support-Start
    https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pa...romebook-Fwupd
    Well, those are some impressive lists. Unfortunately, none of the devices I've ever owned or used are there. Given the market share and popularity of "Desktop Linux", I hardly expect things to change in the next decade.

    Also, your fist link about fwupdate leads to "This project is no longer supported."

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