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    Re: Original Windows installation to avoid warranty being voided

    Quote Originally Posted by MartyBuntu View Post
    Either way, you should have another drive for backups...unless you don't place that much value on your data, or time.
    You're totally right.
    I have actually a backup on a HDD... But I'm thinking to subscribe to an online backup service, because I travel a lot and I don't always that HDD with me.

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    Re: Original Windows installation to avoid warranty being voided

    Quote Originally Posted by CelticWarrior View Post
    [...] you can reinstall the same original OS as many times you want and for current Windows, as explained already, you don't need any serial number, let alone GUID, that would be ridiculous.
    I had read that (GUID key, etc) from another forum, but in fact I thought exactly like you!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by CelticWarrior View Post
    You CAN install any other OS, standalone or multi-boot, without affecting the warranty, as long as when you do a warranty claim the troubleshoot must be done with the original OS.
    That sound so logical. Thank you very much CelticWarrior for sharing your thoughts.

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    Re: Original Windows installation to avoid warranty being voided

    Quote Originally Posted by QIII View Post
    The GUID is deliberately hard to extract. Microsoft wants it that way so that it is difficult to get around their EULA.

    There are third party extraction tools, but I would avoid those out of concern for malware.
    Then I'll definitely won't follow this path.

    Quote Originally Posted by QIII View Post
    [...] there should be a recovery partition on the drive. It used to be that you could create a "recovery" image, which would use that partition to restore the factory image on the drive.
    I had thought about doing something like that but I don't know where is that recovery partition located in the drive.
    Can anyone tell me where it can be (see screenshot)?
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    Re: Original Windows installation to avoid warranty being voided

    The installer does not show labels, it may have a label.
    lsblk -o NAME,FSTYPE,LABEL,MOUNTPOINT,SIZE,fsused,MODEL | egrep -v "^loop"

    My old Dell from 5 years ago when first booted wanted a Dell recovery DVD, a Windows recovery DVD/flash drive and I made a full image recovery with Macrium.
    Backup windows before install - post by Mark Phelps
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.p...0#post12611710
    http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.asp
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    Re: Original Windows installation to avoid warranty being voided

    Quote Originally Posted by oldfred View Post
    The installer does not show labels, it may have a label.
    lsblk -o NAME,FSTYPE,LABEL,MOUNTPOINT,SIZE,fsused,MODEL | egrep -v "^loop"
    Code:
    NAME        FSTYPE   LABEL                     MOUNTPOINT   SIZE FSUSED MODEL
    sda         iso9660  Kubuntu 20.04.1 LTS amd64             14.5G        USB_Flash_Drive
    ├─sda1      iso9660  Kubuntu 20.04.1 LTS amd64 /cdrom       2.4G   2.4G 
    ├─sda2      vfat                                            3.9M        
    └─sda3      ext4     writable                  /var/crash  12.1G  54.8M 
    nvme0n1                                                     477G        PC611 NVMe SK hynix 512GB
    ├─nvme0n1p1 vfat     ESP                                    230M        
    ├─nvme0n1p2                                                 128M        
    ├─nvme0n1p3 ntfs     OS                                   474.3G        
    ├─nvme0n1p4 ntfs     WINRETOOLS                             990M        
    └─nvme0n1p5 ntfs     DELLSUPPORT                            1.3G
    The recovery partition seems to be:
    ├─nvme0n1p4 ntfs WINRETOOLS

    Can I delete the rest of nvme0n1 expect the one above?

    Or perhaps keep also:
    └─nvme0n1p5 ntfs DELLSUPPORT

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    Re: Original Windows installation to avoid warranty being voided

    Both Windows & Ubuntu use the ESP - efi system partition for UEFI install's boot files.
    You may want to make ESP slightly larger. Many suggest 300 to 500 as suggested sizes.
    But if only booting Ubuntu it does not have to be larger.

    The p2 partition is Windows System Reserved and is unformatted, so often shown as an error in partition tools as they do not like unformatted partitions.
    Your p3 is then your Windows main drive. I thought now it also wanted or created another small partition after the main install or is that labeled as Windows recovery?

    WinRE recovery partition after main NTFS
    https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/win...ical-reference
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    Re: Original Windows installation to avoid warranty being voided

    Oldfred, sorry but English is not my first language and I don't fully understand what you're telling me.

    I think I've understood that I should keep: ESP (eventually larger) and also p2
    But then, I don't quite understand this:
    Quote Originally Posted by oldfred View Post
    Your p3 is then your Windows main drive. I thought now it also wanted or created another small partition after the main install or is that labeled as Windows recovery?

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    Re: Original Windows installation to avoid warranty being voided

    I saw a while back that Windows was going to add a small recovery partition after the main install. And that could cause issues.
    That may just be the partition you show as recovery.

    Windows standard partitions:
    https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win...Configurations

    You only need p2 if using Windows as that is the Windows system reserved as unformatted space for "hidden" serial numbers or other data.

    With old BIOS, Windows wrote that info in the space after the MBR and before first partition. That does not exist with gpt. And back then grub also used that space and Windows DRM like flexnet also used it creating conflicts that grub ended up working around.

    Order on drive is important: msftres
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microso...rved_Partition
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    Re: Original Windows installation to avoid warranty being voided

    Quote Originally Posted by oldfred View Post
    I saw a while back that Windows was going to add a small recovery partition after the main install.
    If you're making reference to p4 & p5, perhaps it's because I made a mistake when I was trying to install Ubuntu for the first time.
    I got an Error Code 141 and to overcome that issue I read that I had to disable RAID and instead used AHCI. I did that and it worked. No more error message.
    Perhaps (I think) p2 & p5 has been created when I started to boot again on Windows.

    Quote Originally Posted by oldfred View Post
    You only need p2 if using Windows as that is the Windows system reserved as unformatted space for "hidden" serial numbers or other data.
    Ok, so when installing Ubuntu I can erase everything except p2 & ESP partition, correct?

    I'll probably get that Error Code 141 again and so I'll have to disable RAID and instead used AHCI... Any objection?

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    Re: Original Windows installation to avoid warranty being voided

    Linux does not use Windows system reserved, so you can also delete p2.

    Only if partitioning in advance for Windows would you then add a system reserved before first NTFS partitions. Windows automatically creates that with its install into unallocated space.

    My system allows me to update UEFI by reading an update file in a FAT32 partition. So I like a larger ESP, so I can also use it for updates.
    But Ubuntu changed to hide it with settings in fstab(0077). I change to defaults, but I believe they changed settings for security reasons, so may change back in future.

    Code:
    14.04 fstab entry defaults
    UUID=FD76-E33D  /boot/efi       vfat    defaults        0       1
    16.04 fstab entry umask=0077
    UUID=68CD-3368  /boot/efi       vfat    umask=0077      0       1
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