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    Exclamation Grub fails to install in a VirtualBox installation of Ubuntu MATE Groovy Aug 01, 2020

    Note: I am just trying to figure out what and how the installation setup have changed since Focal 20.04 to Groovy 20.10

    Also, I have read this post:
    Code:
    https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2447379
    but it sounds different issue from the one I am having.

    I was having the exact same issue with July 06, 2020 ISO of Ubuntu MATE daily live too, and here are the bug reports I have filed:

    Code:
    https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub-installer/+bug/1886580
    
    https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub-installer/+bug/1889989
    The issue:
    Though I'm trying to install Ubuntu MATE Groovy in a VirtualBox installation, I like to make it clear that, this is a desktop PC with old-style BIOS (No UEFI at all).
    Also, EFI is not selected in VirtualBox settings.

    Version:
    Ubuntu MATE 20.10 daily live ISO I'm installing from is of Aug 01, 2020
    VirtualBox version is: VirtualBox-6.1.97-139665-Linux_amd64, and it runs Ubuntu MATE 20.04 Focal with kernel version 5.7.11

    When I first tried to install it with just two partitions (like I always have up until now),

    (1) First EXT4 partition of 22GB, and
    (2) Second SWAP partition of 3GB;

    installer displayed:

    Error-1:
    "No EFI System Partition was found. This system will likely not be able to boot successfully, and the installation process may fail. Please go back and add an EFI System Partition, or continue at your own risk".

    and upon clicking Continue, it displayed:

    Error-2:
    "The partition table format in use on your disks normally requires you to create a separate partition for boot loader code. This partition should be marked as a "Reserved BIOS boot area" and should be at leat 1 MB in size. Note that thi is not the same as a partition mounted on /boot.

    If you do not go back to the partitioning menu and correct this error, boot loader installation may fail later, although it may still be possible to install the boot loader to a partition".

    So I went back and created:
    (1) EFI partition 1GB
    (2) Reserved BIOS boot area partition 1GB
    (3) / EXT4 partition 20GB
    (4) SWAP partition 3GB

    So even with "EFI" and "biosgrub" partitions, grub fails to install on either SDA/SDA1/SDA2/SDA3 with a message,

    "Bootloader install failed: Sorry, an error occurred and it was not possible to install the bootloader at the specified location".

    Many thanks in advance.

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    July 06, 2020: https://imgur.com/a/xKf8nNM
    
    Aug  01, 2020: https://imgur.com/a/sjMi756

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    Re: Grub fails to install in a VirtualBox installation of Ubuntu MATE Groovy Aug 01,

    On VMs I just install the whole shebang into a single disk image. I don't do any partitioning at all.
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    Re: Grub fails to install in a VirtualBox installation of Ubuntu MATE Groovy Aug 01,

    Quote Originally Posted by SeijiSensei View Post
    On VMs I just install the whole shebang into a single disk image. I don't do any partitioning at all.
    Thanks for the reply.

    The very reason to create a new VM with Ubuntu MATE Groovy desktop daily live iso is to know the new things (if any) in it, and how the installation have changed (if at all) from 20.04 to 20.10

    Otherwise I have two 20.04 VMs up and running just fine on Ubuntu MATE 20.04

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    Re: Grub fails to install in a VirtualBox installation of Ubuntu MATE Groovy Aug 01,

    jagsdesai; Hello

    BootHole vulnerability ?
    https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam...cureBootBypass

    Are you also affected:
    https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...2/+bug/1889509

    hard to make a distinction
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    Re: Grub fails to install in a VirtualBox installation of Ubuntu MATE Groovy Aug 01,

    I still don't see a reason to partition the VirtualBox disk image. I partition physical hard drives, but they're usually 500GB or larger, and I sometimes have multiple flavors of Ubuntu installed, so I need to be able to select among them at boot. I usually also assign a separate partition for /home. But partitioning a virtual drive that's just 30-50 GB seems like overkill.

    Also, you should be able to edit the repository list in /etc/apt/sources.list on a 20.04 machine to use "groovy" instead of "focal", e.g.,

    Code:
    deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ groovy main restricted
    then run

    Code:
    sudo apt update
    sudo apt upgrade
    grub2 was automatically updated on my 20.04 systems in the past couple of days, and again today, presumably to fix the BootHole vulnerability.
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    Lightbulb Re: Grub fails to install in a VirtualBox installation of Ubuntu MATE Groovy Aug 01,

    Quote Originally Posted by Bashing-om View Post
    jagsdesai; Hello

    BootHole vulnerability ?
    https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam...cureBootBypass

    Are you also affected:
    https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...2/+bug/1889509
    hard to make a distinction
    Thanks for the reply.

    The issue I am having is that, Grub fails to install. Vulnerable or not, Grub should get installed.

    And as I have said previously, "The very reason to create a new VM with Ubuntu MATE Groovy desktop daily live iso is to know the new things (if any) in it, and how the installation have changed (if at all) from 20.04 to 20.10".

    This is not my main system,.. not even the VM that I would use beyond installations.

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    Lightbulb Re: Grub fails to install in a VirtualBox installation of Ubuntu MATE Groovy Aug 01,

    Quote Originally Posted by SeijiSensei View Post
    I still don't see a reason to partition the VirtualBox disk image.
    Here's reason #1: I can install any version (including Ubuntu MATE 20.04) of Ubuntu, and Debian up until Ubuntu MATE 20.10, inside a VirtualBox VM, with partitioning of my choosing.. but the installation fails on 20.10.

    Reason #2: Try out the development version and report bugs (if I find any). And that's why I have submitted two bug reports on Launchpad (which by the way, the installer ask you to submit right after the installation fails).

    Also, that's why I am posting this in "Ubuntu Development Version" section of Ubuntu Forums.


    Quote Originally Posted by SeijiSensei View Post
    Also, you should be able to edit the repository list in /etc/apt/sources.list on a 20.04 machine to use "groovy" instead of "focal", e.g.,

    Code:
    deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ groovy main restricted
    then run

    Code:
    sudo apt update
    sudo apt upgrade
    grub2 was automatically updated on my 20.04 systems in the past couple of days, and again today, presumably to fix the BootHole vulnerability.
    I guess you did not read or notice what I replied to you previously that:

    "The very reason to create a new VM with Ubuntu MATE Groovy desktop daily live iso is to know the new things (if any) in it, and how the installation have changed (if at all) from 20.04 to 20.10

    Otherwise I have two 20.04 VMs up and running just fine on Ubuntu MATE 20.04".

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    Re: Grub fails to install in a VirtualBox installation of Ubuntu MATE Groovy Aug 01,

    Hello!

    Although unlikely, the issue may be that VirtualBox is not prepared to support Groovy. Maybe the MATE team doesn't have 20.10 ready for VirtualBox. VirtualBox also "taints" the kernel, so some bug reports like failure to install will be shuffled to the back of the queue.

    Have you tried a KVM installation? That might be interesting. Also, noses might not be turned up at bug reports.
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    Exclamation Re: Grub fails to install in a VirtualBox installation of Ubuntu MATE Groovy Aug 01,

    Quote Originally Posted by QIII View Post
    Hello!

    Although unlikely, the issue may be that VirtualBox is not prepared to support Groovy.
    Thanks for the reply. Now that could very well be a possibility...

    But if that's the case, would the desktop live iso boot normally ? 'Coz from a brief usage, the live environment was working just fine with the net access (and that's how I was able to submit semi-automated bug reports).

    Also, other VMs, Ubuntu MATE 20.04, Manjaro MATE, 2 more Ubuntu headless servers, are running just fine on the same host.

    By the way, I am using "Development snapshots" of VirtualBox. The version is VirtualBox-6.1.97-139665-Linux_amd64. Host OS is Ubuntu MATE 20.04 with kernel 5.7.11

    Lastly, I have never got these (1) EFI system partition, and (2) Reserved BIOS boot area, error messages up until 20.10 during any virtual installations.




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    Re: Grub fails to install in a VirtualBox installation of Ubuntu MATE Groovy Aug 01,

    I have installed Groovy in VirtualBox.
    The installation failed without the "Enable EFI" setting.
    This is however on a computer that supports EFI, but try to install with the EFI setting.
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