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    Which motherboards will boot ubuntu

    Hello all,

    Can anyone vouch for a motherboard with an AMD X570 chipset that works fine with Ubuntu?

    It would be a helpful starting point for selecting a board for my PC build.

    Also let me know if you have any experience with B450 / X470 boards as I might be tempted to go for one of those if compatibility issues made it necessary.

    Thanks!

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    Re: Which motherboards will boot ubuntu

    I wouldn't "vouch" for the B450 that I've been running Ubuntu on for 18 months. There are hundreds of settings that have to be configured correctly. Lots of compatible and incompatible HW makes vouching for anything difficult.

    Pretty much any reputable brand of B450 or X470 or X370 board will work fine. Don't know about x570 - haven't been in the market. Pay attention to the MB vendors who refuse to suppose Linux in any way. Avoid those.

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    Re: Which motherboards will boot ubuntu

    I'm running Ubuntu Focal on an ASUS Crosshair VIII Hero with a 3700x. No issues not related to the Nvidia 2080 GPU and that there's no driver for the 2.5GHz LAN adapter which I don't use anyway.

    YMMV.
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    Re: Which motherboards will boot ubuntu

    Quote Originally Posted by rbmorse View Post
    I'm running Ubuntu Focal on an ASUS Crosshair VIII Hero with a 3700x. No issues not related to the Nvidia 2080 GPU and that there's no driver for the 2.5GHz LAN adapter which I don't use anyway.

    YMMV.
    Excellent point about the NIC. I specifically select only motherboards that come with Intel PRO/1000 NICs. No realtek. No funky brands I've never heard about. My B450 has an Intel I211 Gigabit NIC. By filtering out non-Intel NICs, the choices drop and so does the issues with networking. I was tired of being disappointed/burned by non-Intel NICs. Just look in these forums for problems related to non-working wired ethernet connections that go back to realtek drivers. There are a bunch. For a long time, may still be true, BSD didn't have support for Realtek, but Intel has been providing drivers for 25+ yrs.

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    Re: Which motherboards will boot ubuntu

    Quote Originally Posted by TheFu View Post
    I wouldn't "vouch" for the B450 that I've been running Ubuntu on for 18 months.
    And which mobo would that be?

    Pay attention to the MB vendors who refuse to support Linux in any way. Avoid those.
    There are only a handful of major mobo vendors. So maybe you could be more specific?
    That said, I've never needed Linux-specific support from a mobo vendor.

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    Re: Which motherboards will boot ubuntu

    Code:
               Desktop: Openbox 3.6.1 Distro: Ubuntu 16.04 xenial
    Machine:   Mobo: ASUSTeK model: ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING v: Rev 1.xx
    CPU:       Hexa core AMD Ryzen 5 2600 Six-Core (-HT-MCP-)
               speed/max: 1535/3400 MHz
    Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA GP108 [GeForce GT 1030]
               Resolution: 1920x1200@59.95hz
               GLX Renderer: GeForce GT 1030/PCIe/SSE2
               GLX Version: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 430.64
    Network:   Card: Intel I211 Gigabit Network Connection driver: igb
    Info:      Processes: 528 Uptime: 4 days Memory: 15625.8/32160.7MB
    I don't game. There are some odd-to-me limitations around storage with that MB. It has 2 NVMe m.2 slots. If either are used in SATA mode, then SATA 5/6 are lost. At the time, NVMe storage was about 2x the cost of SATA SSDs.

    That Asus is easy to install firmware updates without Windows. The BIOS has that capability built-in either directly over the internet or from USB storage. I'm also running "unapproved RAM" at 3200Mhz on the system. That was a problem with early Ryzen releases, but by the time the 2nd-gen Ryzens were out, it was almost completely a non-issue. Just doubled the RAM last month as my use was bumping into the 16G it has previously.

    There are only a handful of major mobo vendors. So maybe you could be more specific?
    That said, I've never needed Linux-specific support from a mobo vendor.
    I'm not in the market and things change. I've been burned by a few vendors who only provided Windows firmware drivers, updates, support. When a MB has a fault and the vendor refuses to help just because you aren't running Windows - well - I don't want to give them any money, ever again.

    When I'm looking for hardware, I'll seek out vendors who support BSD. To me, even if I don't run BSD on the hardware, it tells me much about their Unix support team. Hardware that works well with BSD usually is absolutely fantastic with Linux.
    Last edited by TheFu; June 25th, 2020 at 06:42 PM. Reason: Bold in the HW stuff.

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    Re: Which motherboards will boot ubuntu

    Quote Originally Posted by TheFu View Post
    There are some odd-to-me limitations around storage with that MB. It has 2 NVMe m.2 slots. If either are used in SATA mode, then SATA 5/6 are lost.
    My Gigabyte/Aorus B450 does this too. I know some MSI boards that do the same thing. That doesn't really have anything to do with Ubuntu/Linux though.

    I've been burned by a few vendors who only provided Windows firmware drivers, updates, support.
    What else do you need except BIOS updates? And nowadays, they're mainly done in the BIOS.

    When I'm looking for hardware, I'll seek out vendors who support BSD.
    Care to name them? Does Asus support BSD?

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    Re: Which motherboards will boot ubuntu

    It is true. Some things that feel like "gotchas" aren't important to the OS. I had plans for 8 storage devices. 7 SATA (1 m.2) and 1 NVMe (m.2). Got to spend more cash on a SATA addon card that doesn't support booting. I drew the line there - MB, not addon card - when mentioning issues.

    Over the decades, I've had lots of issues over minor things. That has taught me many lessons. When I was younger, I ignored the old guys claims because spending $5 less was absolutely critical in my decision. Remember WinModems? Remember the Logitech C-series mice that all stopped working? Remember the years that Seagate lied about problems with their 600GB - 2TB drives? I do. I avoided anything from Logitech for about 15 yrs. I won't touch anything new from Seagate when I used to seek them out. I have some really old Seagate 300-320GB disks here with 12+ yrs of continuous use. Don't get me started about PC HP stuff.

    Care to name them? Does Asus support BSD?
    I don't have the desire to volunteer the 2-weeks of research to nail that down. Feel free if you do. Start with popular BSD distro lists of hardware - FreeNAS or pfSense. If you are building a VM host, it doesn't hurt to look at the VMware ESXi "whitebox" list. VMware is really picky, so doing 10 minutes of searching this week may be able to prevent problems in 3 yrs when the OP decides to run that solution and cannot due to very popular HW not working. Out of 5 systems here in 2010, only 1 could boot ESXi. VMware has only become pickier.

    Best to NOT lock yourself out of future desires by a short-term choice today if that can be easily avoided. Of course, all these things are trade-offs in time, money, effort. If $20 more for a MB gets me Intel NICs, I've decided that is worth it. If the price isn't any different between two MBs and 1 supports ESXi and the other one doesn't - why would I pick the one that doesn't?

    And that's my main point here. Seek out the most compatible stuff you can find, but is isn't "Asus always works." We have to look at the different models and compatible components. Most vendors pay attention to the 93% of the world using Windows for desktop systems, as they should. Those who pay attention to other OSes and actually provide support should be on our short list.

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    Re: Which motherboards will boot ubuntu

    Quote Originally Posted by TheFu View Post
    I avoided anything from Logitech for about 15 yrs. I won't touch anything new from Seagate when I used to seek them out ...
    Seek out the most compatible stuff you can find, but is isn't "Asus always works." We have to look at the different models and compatible components.
    Those two statements are completely contradictory. On the one hand, you are ignoring brand name, and on the other, you are regarding it as long-term gospel.

    When I'm looking for hardware, I'll seek out vendors who support BSD ... I don't have the desire to volunteer the 2-weeks of research to nail that down.
    So you purchased a mobo recently and didn't follow your own advice? You can't even advise for/against the mobo you're currently using?
    FWIW, I recommend the Gigabyte/Aorus B450 Wifi Pro I have. The only thing that doesn't seem to work is the mobo sensor chip (though you can still see CPU temp and NVMe from other sensors).

    Start with popular BSD distro lists of hardware - FreeNAS or pfSense.
    I was asking if Asus officially supported BSD/Linux; not the other way around. I mean, if someone contacted Asus about an issue with a bug in their ACPI that only occurs on Linux, would they forward it to their BIOS engineers or would they just say, "We don't support Linux. Bye."? That seems like a fairly simple question that does not require two weeks of research. And I would think that somebody stressing the importance of a vendor's Linux support would know the answer to that question when s/he just bought a mobo for that vendor..

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    Re: Which motherboards will boot ubuntu

    Excellent point about the NIC. I specifically select only motherboards that come with Intel PRO/1000 NICs.


    Yes...I made sure the ASUS Crosshair had Intel ethernet (I211) in addition to the Realtek before buying. If ASUS had offered only the Realtek NIC I would have passed on the Crosshair Hero for all reasons you mentioned.
    regards

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