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    Sites that don't support Ubuntu browsers

    The other day was checking out the free steaming options on Sling. When site loaded was saying they don't support Ubuntu browsers. After installing an 'user agent switcher', their site worked perfectly. Since they do seem to work well on Ubuntu browsers, I figure they just don't want to be bothered. Was using firefox first, then had switcher to change to chrome windows. Any opinions.

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    Re: Sites that don't support Ubuntu browsers

    Depressingly common. As you discovered, the user agent workaround usually easily sneaks by this sort of thing.

    Sling is but symptomatic of a larger problem. Government sites routinely post fillable PDFs that only work on Acrobat Reader. If they detect a non Acrobat reader, they lock up and refuse to open. The developer just couldn't be bothered to design the form generically (it's not that hard).
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    Re: Sites that don't support Ubuntu browsers

    Maybe they're just terrified that Ubuntu users are all hackers, so they want to keep us away.
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    Re: Sites that don't support Ubuntu browsers

    Quote Originally Posted by Irihapeti View Post
    Maybe they're just terrified that Ubuntu users are all hackers, so they want to keep us away.
    As well they should. We're all scheming lying ner'-do-wells doncha know? In fact, I imagine it may have to do with the inability/unwillingness to provide technical support.

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    Re: Sites that don't support Ubuntu browsers

    Strange, just tried Sling on Solus OS and it worked after allowing Firefox to install needed components an enabling DRM. Seems they have a Linux bias.
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    Re: Sites that don't support Ubuntu browsers

    Sling specifically says Ubuntu browsers, not Linux. Don't know if same would happen with Arch or Fedora or another type. This happens when trying to watch(https://watch.sling.com/). Home page works okay(sling.com)

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    Re: Sites that don't support Ubuntu browsers

    I tested on Ubuntu Budgie and only Ubuntu Firefox gets the warning/block and Chrome works just fine.
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    Re: Sites that don't support Ubuntu browsers

    Wonder if they just have something against Firefox on Ubuntu? My Chrome works also, but usually just use it for videostream. Just changed user-agent to firefox windows and sling says firefox not supported either. Looks like they just don't like firefox and not Ubuntu in general.
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    Re: Sites that don't support Ubuntu browsers

    Wonder if they just have something against Firefox on Ubuntu?
    Seems to be their target.
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    Re: Sites that don't support Ubuntu browsers

    As one who has developed since Windows 3.0, a very basic premise is commonly ignored today to the point of pious pretentiousness.

    That premise is from Tim Berners Lee, that we as developers should never dictate to the end user how they should browse the Internet. It is up to us to make it easy for them.

    In the early days clients (in this case, client being web browser) had their own ideas on how to render HTML to the user. There was no real standard, and when one was formed, each thought they were so awesome and would take over the market share that the only loosely, if at all, followed it. We had to formulate all sorts of hacks and mods to get Mosaic, Netscape, I.E., and that newbie "FireFox" to play nicely together. But we did it, because we understood - and respected - that basic premise.

    As years went by, more and more lazy developers - and it is indeed lazy - moved into positions of power in which they dictated what they would and would not support. They would find some evidence - and if you look hard enough on the 'net, you will always find what you are looking for - that the ROI to support this browser or that was not worth their time. In my last position one of those devs sold the idea to business that if someone wanted to support older IE browsers, they would personally have to pay for it. The irony is that internal business staff were issued Windows computers that could not upgrade to the later browsers, so they were instructed to use Chrome or Firefox.

    So sadly, what you are facing is a huge problem that is not going away. The solution is **really** simple - instead of identifying the browser and acting as a gatekeeper, you identify if the client has the capabilities to do what you want to do and proceed to gracefully degrade so the user can still access your content. This is why Flash failed, it only had limited capability to gracefully degrade and most developers using it failed to implement, or understand, how to do that.

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